Originally Posted by annikan skywalkerWhat a great phrase- This is TGM. Unlike anything else.
" Battle tested Machinist"!
Sorry, to be long winded, but all my post are... because I need to learn to say the least to gain the most!!!! Sorry, Michael I still haven't learn that lesson yet!Yeah, I hope this wasn't aimed at me. I never said that- LOL. I love every word you post. Not enough words or posts for me- ever.
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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf Here is an interesting quote from Jodie Mudd...And tons of natural talent too.
"I started working with Tom Tomasello on The Golfing Machine in March 1984. At the time, I was in danger of losing my tour card. I finished the year qualifying in 15 of the last 17 events and climbed from 250 to 35 on the money list".
Sounds like Jodie got it....I guess some students do and some don't...as in all things in life.
DG
Originally Posted by 6bmike And tons of natural talent too.
From the sequence- it looks like the hand drop and pivot weight shift moved togther.
Originally Posted by Delaware Golf Look a little closer(the hips should respond to the action of the right forearm...make that the magic of the right forearm....then review the WHOLE Tomaello Australia video series)....second, no torquing action in the lower body...The WHOLE Tomaello Australia video series??? I have seen it enough times.
DG
Originally Posted by 6bmike The WHOLE Tomaello Australia video series??? I have seen it enough times.I'm sorry it's an Illusion (please take that comment as an opportunity to learn...not an opportunity for resentment)!!! Watch the upcoming the Tomasello video, Tommy talks about illusions (another opportunity for learning)...Homer also mentions illusions! Facts vs. Illusions.
DG- I do not see a hip reaction to his forearm moving, I do see a beautiful swing with the lower body starting first.
torquing action ???
Originally Posted by 6bmike The WHOLE Tomaello Australia video series??? I have seen it enough times.Actually Jodie Mudd used the "Shoulder Turn Throw" trigger 10-20-C to start the club down...not the lower body. One of several triggers in 10-20 to start the downstroke sequence.
DG- I do not see a hip reaction to his forearm moving, I do see a beautiful swing with the lower body starting first.
torquing action ???
Originally Posted by Delaware Golf Actually Jodie Mudd used the "Shoulder Turn Throw" trigger 10-20-C to start the club down...not the lower body. One of several triggers in 10-20 to start the downstroke sequence.Wow, have you been researching that for over 4 years?
DG
Originally Posted by Delaware Golf Actually Jodie Mudd used the "Shoulder Turn Throw" trigger 10-20-C to start the club down...not the lower body. One of several triggers in 10-20 to start the downstroke sequence.But a Release Trigger is a thing that Triggers Release not Startdown, by definition, no?
DG
Originally Posted by O.B.Left But a Release Trigger is a thing that Triggers Release not Startdown, by definition, no?
After moving the weight to the left and initiating the Pivot Train's ground up sequential firing the shoulders (the right shoulder) eventually bring the arms and with them the club down plane. Startdown in a club sense but preceded by all of the components ahead of it in the Pivot Train.
Now if you are talking about the Pivot Train as being an anticipatory deal then that is a different matter. No pro actually leads with the right arm on a full swing anyways. That would zero out the Pivot Lag, like a one armed lobster playing golf.
Originally Posted by Delaware Golf [/b]I agree Kenny Perry does use his right arm. He's a Hitter to my eye anyways. But I dont need to look at his swing video to see if he leads with his right arm on a Major Basic Stroke. He hits it way to far for that Radius reduced procedure. For a Minor Basic Stroke it is one way, Hitting Chipping say with, Push Basic or whatever, a one Accumulator Stroke.
Hmmmm....Kenny Perry's swinging pattern utilizes the right arm!!! In TGM per 10-3-D in the 7th edition...Last sentence in 10-3-D, "When used with a Major Basic Stroke, it can produce Full Power". 4 Barrel Swinging...the muscles of both forearms per 6-B-2-0.
Originally Posted by O.B.Left I agree Kenny Perry does use his right arm. He's a Hitter to my eye anyways. But I dont need to look at his swing video to see if he leads with his right arm on a Major Basic Stroke. He hits it way to far for that Radius reduced procedure. For a Minor Basic Stroke it is one way, Hitting Chipping say with, Push Basic or whatever, a one Accumulator Stroke.
You've heard all this before Im sure, but..... 12-3 omitted Zone 1 as it assumed the Hands to control the Pivot but that didnt imply anything contrary to 6-M-1 DOWNSTROKE SEQUENCE which quite clearly states:
"Feet, or the employed component nearest to the feet, in the following order: Knees, Hips, Shoulders, Arms, Right Elbow, Left Wrist Cock and/or Left Hand Rotation."
If that isnt enough see: 7-17. FOOT ACTION. " Halting the Backstroke motion with the Feet and letting this same tension pull the Downstroke Through Impact is "Swinging from the Feet" and gives the stroke maximum Swing Radius."
DG, Ive heard some people talk about starting with the arms or an arm. Tiger for instance a few years back talked about correcting his getting stuck thing by feeling like he started down with the arms, but that was just a feel. Fixing a Zone 1 problem with a Zone 2 component is maybe one reason why he changed coaches, maybe. I dunno. My point is while there are people who have said such things, but I dont think they actually meant to literally do that. They assumed you'd start with something further down. That is the way we humans tend to move at speed anyways.
But like I said above if you are saying that; thinking about the arm or hands forward motion will cause the lower body to move first sequentially in an anticipatory manner say........then that is a different kettle of fish.
Originally Posted by Delaware Golf I can execute a 10-20-C Trigger to trigger the downstroke and execute exactly what you quoted from 7-17, I can still feel the tension that Homer is talking about. Doesn't mean the feet are starting the downstroke.Do your Hips slide left before your bring your Shoulders down?