Feeling the Right Elbow Leading

tradekid
This question may have been answered already and if it has I'm sorry. But I want to make sure I'm feeling the correct thing. I've been a Swinger my whole golfing life (38 years). I'm now trying to learn how to Hit. I've been working with dowels and the impact bag. Last time at the dome I was getting good compression, sound, and ball flight when it felt I was leading the downswing with my right elbow. (I'm a right handed golfer). Should this be one of the prime feelings I have when I Hit?
EdZ
Hitting or swinging I personally find a focus on the right elbow a very good key. The feel of leading with the right elbow and hitting the ball with your 'entire' right forearm and 'down' through with the heel of the right hand. Don't overdo it though. In setup, and as a swing trigger, I 'kick in' my right knee and right elbow to preset this feel. Watch Gary Player for an example of this move.
Yoda
Tradekid PMed me with his problem, and I told him it was better posted in the Hitter's ER. Here's what followed:

Originally Posted by tradekid I already posted this earlier in the Hitters Emergency Room. I saw you were online and I hoped to get a quick answer. Leaving Chicago for Orlando Wednesday morning. 5 nights 6 days and 10 rounds of golf. Wanted to make sure I was FEELING what I should FEEL.
Okay, Tradekid, so this really is an Emergency! Cool!

Here's your Feel:

Hit the Ball with both Pressure Points #1 and #3. Pressure Point #1 will Lead and #3 will Lag.

You no longer have a Golf Club.

You have only the Pressure Points in your Hands.

And you are going to Hit That Ball with those Pressure Points!
nevermind
more on the leading right elbow feel

when I try to swing I like the feel of leading right elbow, like im going into a pitch position.

when I try to hit I like the feel of a lagging right elbow, like im going into a punch position.

does it sound like I may actually be doing what I think i'm doing?
Doug
Originally Posted by Yoda Tradekid PMed me with his problem, and I told him it was better posted in the Hitter's ER. Here's what followed:

Originally Posted by tradekid I already posted this earlier in the Hitters Emergency Room. I saw you were online and I hoped to get a quick answer. Leaving Chicago for Orlando Wednesday morning. 5 nights 6 days and 10 rounds of golf. Wanted to make sure I was FEELING what I should FEEL.
Okay, Tradekid, so this really is an Emergency! Cool!

Here's your Feel:

Hit the Ball with both Pressure Points #1 and #3. Pressure Point #1 will Lead and #3 will Lag.

You no longer have a Golf Club.

You have only the Pressure Points in your Hands.

And you are going to Hit That Ball with those Pressure Points!
Yoda

This post should be glued to every hitters forehead.

There is no better feel than #1 pressure point leading and #3 accepting.
EdZ
Originally Posted by Yoda You have only the Pressure Points in your Hands.

And you are going to Hit That Ball with those Pressure Points!

Read this over and over and over and over until it sinks in.

It is the essence of FEEL and Rhythm.

It is through feeling the pressure points in your hands that you can harness and apply true efficient force - the 'heavy' smooth leverage of lag.
YodasLuke
I have to scream the same thing that Yoda stated! You must strike the ball with the pressure points. #1 drives (direct drive), #3 recieves (indirect drive).
You can't get lost in the subtle difference between 10-3-A and 10-3-B, until you really feel the lag pressure. The body will do amazing things and will make subtle changes without any concious thought.

How often would you think of the position of your wrist, elbow, or knee when asked to throw a ball to first base? Your body simply creates pressure against the back side of the ball in the most efficient manner that it had done before.
Tystick
Where does the pressure on the elbow come into play? I have read this on GEA as well as on this forum. Is this perhaps the result of hyper extending the elbow in an effort to utilize the pressure points in our hands?
YodasLuke
Originally Posted by Tystick Where does the pressure on the elbow come into play? I have read this on GEA as well as on this forum. Is this perhaps the result of hyper extending the elbow in an effort to utilize the pressure points in our hands?
Are you asking about pressure in the left or right elbow??
Tystick
The right elbow.
6bmike
There is no pressure point in or on the right elbow BUT... the driving and straighten of the right arm and elbow will be behind the three pressure points of the hands....and that is a wonderful thing to put onto the ball.
bgolfing
Originally Posted by Yoda Tradekid PMed me with his problem, and I told him it was better posted in the Hitter's ER. Here's what followed:

Originally Posted by tradekid I already posted this earlier in the Hitters Emergency Room. I saw you were online and I hoped to get a quick answer. Leaving Chicago for Orlando Wednesday morning. 5 nights 6 days and 10 rounds of golf. Wanted to make sure I was FEELING what I should FEEL.
Okay, Tradekid, so this really is an Emergency! Cool!

Here's your Feel:

Hit the Ball with both Pressure Points #1 and #3. Pressure Point #1 will Lead and #3 will Lag.

You no longer have a Golf Club.

You have only the Pressure Points in your Hands.

And you are going to Hit That Ball with those Pressure Points!
Hoping for a clarification. The pivot is creating lag in #3, not the driving of ppt#1 correct? In this post it sounds like ppt 1 drive was creating lag in #3.
SwingNorthtoSouth
Very important to make sure your weight is slightly on your left side. Yes the dowel is very important. Also make sure you do not cock your right wrist and only bend it.
The thrust of PP#1 and its "dragging" baby brother PP#3.........
Yoda
Originally Posted by bgolfing Hoping for a clarification. The pivot is creating lag in #3, not the driving of ppt#1 correct? In this post it sounds like ppt 1 drive was creating lag in #3.
Thanks for your astute and illuminating question, bgolfing.

The Pivot -- specifically the Downstroke's Right Shoulder Turn as actuated by Hip Action -- Loads the Power Package for both Hitters and Swingers. The difference is that the Hitter's Drive Loading Loads the Right Elbow and the Swinger's Drag Loading Loads the Left Wrist.

The Hitter's Load is against both Pressure Points #1 (the heel of the Right Hand against the Left Hand thumb) and #3 (the meaty part of the Right Forefinger). In most instances, the pressure is equally divided between the two, with #1 driving the Left Arm and #3 driving the Clubshaft. After the Pivot -- specifically the slow-moving Right Shoulder -- has done its work, the Right Elbow (actuated by the Right Triceps) drives both #1 and #3. Hence my Hitter's Dictum:

"Hit the Ball with 'One and Three.'"
Doug
Originally Posted by Yoda
Originally Posted by bgolfing Hoping for a clarification. The pivot is creating lag in #3, not the driving of ppt#1 correct? In this post it sounds like ppt 1 drive was creating lag in #3.
Thanks for your astute and illuminating question, bgolfing.

The Pivot -- specifically the Downstroke's Right Shoulder Turn as actuated by Hip Action -- Loads the Power Package for both Hitters and Swingers. The difference is that the Hitter's Drive Loading Loads the Right Elbow and the Swinger's Drag Loading Loads the Left Wrist.

The Hitter's Load is against both Pressure Points #1 (the heel of the Right Hand against the Left Hand thumb) and #3 (the meaty part of the Right Forefinger). In most instances, the pressure is equally divided between the two, with #1 driving the Left Arm and #3 driving the Clubshaft. After the Pivot -- specifically the slow-moving Right Shoulder -- has done its work, the Right Elbow (actuated by the Right Triceps) drives both #1 and #3. Hence my Hitter's Dictum:

"Hit the Ball with 'One and Three.'"
Yoda

Here is my vote for the #1 post on board.

Great work
JohnThomas1
Yoda there was a recent post saying that when the swingers gyroscope is cranked via hip action that the right hand should be keep it's distance and relationship to the right shoulder before the throwout action. Would you agree?


Thanks

John
Yoda
Originally Posted by Doug
Originally Posted by Yoda
Originally Posted by bgolfing Hoping for a clarification. The pivot is creating lag in #3, not the driving of ppt#1 correct? In this post it sounds like ppt 1 drive was creating lag in #3.
Thanks for your astute and illuminating question, bgolfing.

The Pivot -- specifically the Downstroke's Right Shoulder Turn as actuated by Hip Action -- Loads the Power Package for both Hitters and Swingers. The difference is that the Hitter's Drive Loading Loads the Right Elbow and the Swinger's Drag Loading Loads the Left Wrist.

The Hitter's Load is against both Pressure Points #1 (the heel of the Right Hand against the Left Hand thumb) and #3 (the meaty part of the Right Forefinger). In most instances, the pressure is equally divided between the two, with #1 driving the Left Arm and #3 driving the Clubshaft. After the Pivot -- specifically the slow-moving Right Shoulder -- has done its work, the Right Elbow (actuated by the Right Triceps) drives both #1 and #3. Hence my Hitter's Dictum:

"Hit the Ball with 'One and Three.'"
Yoda

Here is my vote for the #1 post on board.

Great work
Thanks, Doug. And you do it all so beautifully!