Yoda - What are your thoughts on putting?

comdpa
Yoda,

Can you share about your thoughts on putting - TGM style....?
6bmike
Originally Posted by comdpa Yoda,

Can you share about your thoughts on putting - TGM style....?
Id love to hear what Lynn has to say, but we have two putting TGM gurus in VJ and Ted. VJ has some outstanding posts with stroke component lists. Check them out. And Ted just sinks everything with his 'Paw stroke."
Yoda
Originally Posted by comdpa Yoda,

Can you share about your thoughts on putting - TGM style....?
The Putt is a Golf Stroke demanding maximum Precision and minimum Power. It is all about executing a pre-selected Hinge Action On Plane and with its proper Rhythm. Remember, Rhythm in TGM is defined as keeping the Shaft in-line with the Left Forearm, either visually (actually in line) or geometrically (frozen in a Bent alignment).

Power should be limited to One Accumulator -- the Left Arm (Swinging) or the Right Arm (Hitting). The remaining Accumulators -- the Left Wrist (Cocking and Uncocking) and the Left Hand (Turning and Rolling) -- should be zeroed out. This is done easily by either fully-Uncocking the Left Wrist or by Gripping the Club in the cup of the Left Hand. Either way eliminates both Accumulators. It also puts the Left Forearm On Plane (joining the Right Forearm Flying Wedge that is always positioned On Plane). Rely on Clubhead Lag Pressure for Distance Control.

Now, simply Pull the Club through with your Left Arm or Push it through with your Right as you execute your precision Hinge Action... On Plane and in its proper Rhythm. As in all Strokes, for the correct Clubhead Lag Pressure Feel, drag (Swinging) or drive (Hitting) your 'wet mop' through Impact. Properly done, there will be no inclination to (1) bend the Left Wrist or flatten the Right; (2) change the pressure point pressure; or (3) slow or stop the Hands through the Ball.

Finally...

Keep your Head still!
birdie_man
Great great post Yoda. Thanks.

Good idea with this BTW comdpa.

1 question- would a hitter's stroke likely be shorter than a swinger's? (as it is with the full swing).
comdpa
Great post from the Green One.
Can you further expound on 10-3-C and 10-3-H and how to 'do' it?

Thanks


Originally Posted by Yoda
Originally Posted by comdpa Yoda,

Can you share about your thoughts on putting - TGM style....?
The Putt is a Golf Stroke demanding maximum Precision and minimum Power. It is all about executing a pre-selected Hinge Action On Plane and with its proper Rhythm. Remember, Rhythm in TGM is defined as keeping the Shaft in-line with the Left Forearm, either visually (actually in line) or geometrically (frozen in a Bent alignment).

Power should be limited to One Accumulator -- the Left Arm (Swinging) or the Right Arm (Hitting). The remaining Accumulators -- the Left Wrist (Cocking and Uncocking) and the Left Hand (Turning and Rolling) -- should be zeroed out. This is done easily by either fully-Uncocking the Left Wrist or by Gripping the Club in the cup of the Left Hand. Either way eliminates both Accumulators. It also puts the Left Forearm On Plane (joining the Right Forearm Flying Wedge that is always positioned On Plane). Rely on Clubhead Lag Pressure for Distance Control.

Now, simply Pull the Club through with your Left Arm or Push it through with your Right as you execute your precision Hinge Action... On Plane and in its proper Rhythm. As in all Strokes, for the correct Clubhead Lag Pressure Feel, drag (Swinging) or drive (Hitting) your 'wet mop' through Impact. Properly done, there will be no inclination to (1) bend the Left Wrist or flatten the Right; (2) change the pressure point pressure; or (3) slow or stop the Hands through the Ball.

Finally...

Keep your Head still!
Mathew
Yoda by zeroing out acc no.3 do you mean to place the grip into the cup of the left hand?
comdpa
Originally Posted by Mathew Yoda by zeroing out acc no.3 do you mean to place the grip into the cup of the left hand?

That is spot on. Left forearm and shaft in one line.
tgmer
If using a left hand low grip, use left arm to pull, will the pressure point still be #3. In another thread, it was mentioned that using left arm low grip,the pressure points are on the left fingers and are less sensitive than #3.

Can using left arm low grip but using right arm to push with pressure point #3 for sense? It seems that you can still push with your right arm even though using left arm low grip.
bts
For:

"putting" and "chipping (or putting w/ lofted club)", I employ degree of freedom #1 (or shoulder turn with angled hinge) only-maximum precision, yet minimun power.

"pitching (or putting w/ wrist action)", I simultaneously employ degree of freedom #1 (shoulder turn) plus #2 (wrist bend, or vertical hinge) only-better direction control with slightly more power (due to added degree of freedom being involved).

a "less than a full swing", I simultaneously employ degree of freedom #1 (shoulder turn) plus #2 (wrist bend) plus #3 (wrist cock) plus #4 (forearm roll, or horizontal hinge), yet no #5 (arms lift/motion)-much tougher control, yet much more power output (due to more degree of freedom involved and thus more time and space/room for acceleration).

a "full swing", I simultaneously employ degree of freedom #1 (shoulder turn) plus #2 (wrist bend) plus #3 (wrist cock) plus #4 (forearm roll) plus #5 (arms lift)-the toughest control, yet the maximum power output (due to literally the most degree of freedom involved).

Of course, any movement of a joint should be counted as one degree of freedom. So, go figure how many are involved in a full swing.