Shoulder Turn Takeaway and hitting

Originally Posted by tball88 To anyone out there that is a successful hitter, is there any reason you can't use shoulder turn takeaway and hit? I've always thought a hitter should use right forearm pickup, but lately I've had much better success using shoulder turn, then driving with the right arm?

Both Hitter and Swinger must Turn their Right Shoulder back to the Plane. However, neither must allow the Body bully to have its way with the Hands, that is, to pull them inside the Line (and under the Plane) during the Start Up.

Remember the Hands are already On Plane. The Right Shoulder is not. Therefore, the Shoulder must Turn back to the Plane (its job) while the Hands remain On Plane (their job). And the player's means of accomplishing this geometric purpose is...

The On-Line Right Forearm Takeaway.

Originally Posted by TGMfan Yoda,

Just wondering whether it's possible to classify this takeaway

http://home.comcast.net/~wride/moe_takeaway.jpg

as either RFT or STT (or neither)?

I think Moe subconsciously used his Right Forearm to guide his Takeaway. Certainly, he did not let his Shoulder Turn drag the Club deeply inside ('under Plane'), and despite his extreme Extension at Address -- his Left Wrist is fully Uncocked and his Right Arm is very straight -- his Right Elbow folds nicely during Start Up.

Moe was very conscious of the Straight Line Baseline of his Inclined Plane and constantly referenced it in his discussion of the Stroke. In fact, he often told the story of how, as a teenager learning his swing, he placed a coin well back along the Line to make sure he stayed On Line during his Backstroke.