I met up with Jim 0068 today. He gave me some concepts of the hitters swing on the range and we went out to play a quick 9. First I was scared to death taking it back with a shut face. I thought this is going left and low and hard left. I hit the ball great at the range and hit some great shots on the course as well. What is amazing is how simple the swing is and how my dispersion has tightened up with a few pointers. Thanks Jim! You've wetted my appetite to go see the dynamic duo..Lynn/Ted. Thanks Lynn for this site. Thanks to Hue for telling me about this site. It has been an eye opening experience.
Frank
More than happy to do it!
This TGM stuff isn't that hard, you just need someone to translate it for ya
Originally Posted by golfchicago
I met up with Jim 0068 today. He gave me some concepts of the hitters swing on the range and we went out to play a quick 9. First I was scared to death taking it back with a shut face. I thought this is going left and low and hard left. I hit the ball great at the range and hit some great shots on the course as well. What is amazing is how simple the swing is and how my dispersion has tightened up with a few pointers. Thanks Jim! You've wetted my appetite to go see the dynamic duo..Lynn/Ted. Thanks Lynn for this site. Thanks to Hue for telling me about this site. It has been an eye opening experience.
Frank
Another convert!?...did anyone tell him about the seven days of fasting and that he must shave his head?
Ted, I can deal with the shaved head but the seven days of fasting might make me skinny enough to qualify as a swinger!!
Originally Posted by golfchicago
Ted, I can deal with the shaved head but the seven days of fasting might make me skinny enough to qualify as a swinger!!
ok, help me out here, the closed face may be a key to me I've been missing. I'm about as true a "hitter" as you'll find, according to Ted and Lynn, who should know.
Lately ball striking as been good, but I'm getting a bit more drift to the right than I would like. Ball flight takes off straight then starts fading off, a bit much for my liking.
If I want to straighten this out, or even draw the ball, what alterations should I make to my "hit"?
Thanks
8-cork, I use to draw the ball as well and have starte fading for one reson, and that was number 2 on jim_0068's list.
Brian Manzella would call it a leakage hook. Wrist breaks down slightly and the face closes. It's almost what I would call a false draw. It works ok if timing is perfect, if you're a hair off a snap hook can happen in a heartbeat.
It helps me to think of swinging the forearms not the hands.
If you're a decent player i've come to the conclusion that bent left wrists are a result of a poor downswing pivot, specifically the hips stop rotating. It's a chain reaction, hips stop, pivots stop, arms fly through, hit the ball, clubhead flys past the hands.
Just my humble opinion
I think that is exactly my problem, when my timing is good, I play very well, but I can also hook it off the course at any time. The pro at the course I play told me the other day that I needed to work on my pivot. I have been so preoccupied as a hitter working on my hands I have ignored my pivot. Any ideas on how a hitter can develop a better pivot?
Originally Posted by 8cork
I think that is exactly my problem, when my timing is good, I play very well, but I can also hook it off the course at any time. The pro at the course I play told me the other day that I needed to work on my pivot. I have been so preoccupied as a hitter working on my hands I have ignored my pivot. Any ideas on how a hitter can develop a better pivot?
take the club to the top, consciously hip slide, then snap your hips. Don't worry about club/ball contact. Just start training the hips.
Once you get the feeling, do a normal "hit" at half speed. Focussing on turning your hips and getting to a finish.
Once you're on a good "track" take it at full speed
Originally Posted by 8cork
I think that is exactly my problem, when my timing is good, I play very well, but I can also hook it off the course at any time.
Any ideas on how a hitter can develop a better pivot?
- With an uncompensated Hitting Stroke, place the ball forwards to impart slice spin on the ball. This is due to the characteristics of Angled Hinging.
- Unlike the Swinger's Pivot, the Hitter's Pivot do not spin or truly rotate. Instead, it acts as a solid block for your right arm to push off with. So minimise any rotary motion.
Guys, remember Delivery Paths guides the Hands, while Delivery Lines guide the Clubhead.
Both Hitters and Swingers use a Straight Line Delivery Path per 12-1/2 Basic Patterns (swingers use top arc straight line, but still a straight line).
So, swinger should not use a curved delivery path as suggested by rwh? that means no hip turn first for swinger?
Originally Posted by rwh
Either way, the Hitter starts down with a slide parallel to the Delivery Line.
Just so there is no confusion with the lurkers and those who don't post...hitters slide parallel to their delivery line yes, but it is a CROSS-LINE move.
Just wanted to throw that in there.
If you're a Hitter, you have the option of sliding parallel to either:
- the basic Geometric Straight Plane Line (usually, but doesn't have to be, the Target Line)
- the Angle of Approach
For the Swinger, they usually only use 1).
Originally Posted by rwh
Tong is right, Jim -- the Hitter doesn't have to use a Delivery Line that is cross-line. Hitters can use the 10-5-A Plane Line as their Delivery Line if they choose.
Hmm...learn something new everyday i guess. However, isn't the preferred motion cross-line though?
Thanks
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