Why?

Ok...help me out.

Over 1000 members.

Only about 10 post regularly. Why????

All your questions answered? Asked? ......

Seriously....why??

Just curious. I am dumb beyond recognition, so it cant be that.....


Patrick
  • Because people are busy. Jobs to do, families to feed.

  • Because it takes effort.

  • Because people don't want to be embarassed. They feel the need to master the TGM lingo mastered before they can make a post.

  • Because some people feel they can learn just as well by lurking around and watching the free vids.

  • Because you need to reach a certain level of interest before you have the motivation to take the time and effort to post.

  • Because even though those "10 who post regularly" try to be as friendly, enthusiastic and welcoming as possible, their domination makes it somewhat uneasy for newbies to post.
What does "post regularly" mean? Don't know about others, but been on this site since almost the beginning, and there is seldom something I can chime in on. So why clutter the bandwidth if can't contribute. I do post when I have a question or something that I can contribute, that isn't just echoing someone else.
I am just hear to learn and like it was said previously if I cannot add to a discussion, I don't post. My posts tend to be questions in the hope that I will find an answer and a way forward.
Also with work its pretty neigh on impossible to post until I am at home in the evening.
Alex
So much to do, so little time.

There are some ideas floating around for more topic areas to initiate discussion.
We have several audiences here:
People that have been studying TGM for decades (Book owners).
People that have been studying TGM for less than 10 years.
People that are new to TGM and wading through the science and terminology.
People that have heard of TGM and are curious if it can help.
People that are here to learn from watching movies.
And of course, a combination of the above.

We are very interested in attracting the folks that are new without turning them off to the terminology and science. In fact, we would like them to come by the droves. At the same time, we want a rich experience for the "owners" and those taking ownership.
It's a balancing act.
I'm very new to TGM. I've had the book for just about a week now. Although I've gone through it with a yellow highlighter and found various "golden nuggets" I'm not exactly sure what all the buzz is about.

As TGM isn't a "method" I'm not exactly sure how to critque it or apply it to my game.
happens on all message boards. Nothing against this site. It just happens. Lurkers everywhere.
There is many questions I have about the machine but often don't like to ask because of responces from people even further in the dark than myself answering questions on the subject. I really respect people that have studied and know the answers and these are the people I really want to learn from.
I'm sure my first post reads a bit naive. I should say that what Mr. Kelly outlines regarding educated hands is plenty substantive. Clubhead lag and a flat left wrist (for right handers) are clearly "weighty matters." Swing plane is another hot topic today and the book does a great job of outlining the various plane options. The discussion of vertical, horizontal and angled hinge actions is also very enlightening.

A few things I find to be challenging:

1. I find the constant back and forth discussion between hitting and swinging to be rather confusing.
2. I've heard for awhile now that Phyics 101 teaches that centrifugal force does not exist. Does this make a pulling motion for swingers ineffective?
3. I like the idea of self coaching. This books begs for readers to seek out in-person instruction. I've done a fair bit of this in my golfing life and I'm not excited by the prospect of doing more of it.

LynnBlakeGolf is a wonderful website. The gallery is unbelievably good. I'm just waiting for someone to write "The Golfing Machine for Dummies."
After reading this thread I decided to ask a question that was bugging me for a while - on 7-2. I suppose in asking questions I sometimes don't allow myself due to how people would percieve me.

But perhaps thats making me a bad student....
Sometimes I'm not sure that I wanted to know about something...until someone asks it! Other times, I feel as if the info is in the website so I decide to search for a topic vs. asking....it kind of goes along with Homer's look, Look, LOOK! I know if I LOOK, it may already be on the site!

FL-John
Originally Posted by FL-John Sometimes I'm not sure that I wanted to know about something...until someone asks it! Other times, I feel as if the info is in the website so I decide to search for a topic vs. asking....it kind of goes along with Homer's look, Look, LOOK! I know if I LOOK, it may already be on the site!

FL-John
I do the same thing. I'm still a TGM newbie working on applying the basic concepts. Most of the questions I know to ask have already been asked over and over again on this and other forums, so I read, watch videos, practice, and post once in a great while when I have a question for which I can't find the answer. While I should post more, I won't feel comfortable jumping into discussions with you more seasoned folks until I can consistently apply what I'm studying.
*minority report*

Being a stubborn, analytic and curious person with a lot of scientific baggage under my skin, and also a half-studied TGM amateur - I am probably qualified for the "really hard to please" segment of the TGM members.

Joke aside, the TGM terminology, the component catalog and the growing body of teaching video material is of great value as a "how to" source of knowledge. I have a few yards of golf litterature at home, and TGM is IMO on par with the best mental literature and far above and ahead the rest when it comes to the golf stroke.

But: I really would appreciate to see the not-so-easy to grasp/not so clear aspects of TGM being given higher priority on the forum - particularly amongst the TGM professionals.

The last unresolved issue of importance to me was in a LHFW thread, where there are ambiguity regarding what is on plane and what isn't at the 9 o'clock position as well as in the rest of the swing. A resolution of that thread could do miracles to my TGM understanding.

As I have several unresolved TGM issues in my mind, preventing me from seeing the whole picture of TGM - I am reluctant to sticking my head out and respont to any question that arrives. For the time being I do not post the questions that I mostly would like to see addressed anymore. It takes to much work to present the issues properly and the outcome is seldom worth it. Besides, me banging my head against the wall is not productive to anyone.

Anyway I am ready to jump on when the right "train of thoughts" passes by.
Originally Posted by wallaceja I'm just waiting for someone to write "The Golfing Machine for Dummies."
Start with the Imperatives and Essentials and Flying Wedges

A 'short course' in TGM

Flat Left Wrist
Steady Head (stable center)
Feel the Lag Pressure Points in your HANDS monitor your HANDS. Get your HANDS ahead of the ball at impact and take a divot.

Stay in Balance

Flying Wedges (see drills section)

Left wedge - keep the shaft and your left arm in line (viewed face on) with the shaft under the heel pad of your left hand. Hit chip shots with your left hand only.

Right wedge - keep the shaft in line with your right forearm (viewed down the line). Maintain the bend in your right wrist. Hit chip shots with your right hand only.

Extensor action - keep your HANDS as far away from 'center' as you can while maintaining BALANCE

Pick a spot in front of the ball and send your HANDS directly toward that spot (aiming point)
Originally Posted by EdZ
Pick a spot in front of the ball and send your HANDS directly toward that spot (aiming point)
I'd just like to add here that for me (and I may be way off track) it has helped to aim the hands more with the feel of at or even behind the ball. This came from watching Yoda's excellent video on the straight line delivery path. Note how the dowel parallel to the right forearm arm angle of approach is back towards the ball. If I try to get my hands too far forward I seem to get more of a circle delivery path (possibly roundhousing too), for me better results come from going down steeper through the ball. Perhaps this is just my problem though.

Chris (lurker trying to post more!)
Like others, I don't feel the need to post unless I have something new to add/ask. I'm no Birdie-Man, no offense
Originally Posted by wallaceja A few things I find to be challenging:

1. I find the constant back and forth discussion between hitting and swinging to be rather confusing.
Do you like to pull the shaft (left handed frisbee throw) or do you like to push it down into the ball with straightening right arm and muscle? Learn one and dabble with the other after some of this becomes second nature. Many Swing the woods and Hit the scoring clubs.

2. I've heard for awhile now that Phyics 101 teaches that centrifugal force does not exist. Does this make a pulling motion for swingers ineffective?
It has been mislabeled as a factious force because unlike Gravity that exist in any and all conditions (outside a Black Hole), CF can only exist in a rotational condition like a rock twirling on a string or low and behold- a golf swing (clubhead orbit to be precise). It is the yang to the yin Centripetal Force. Neither exist without the other. This is NewtonÂ’s Third Law- Its real.

3. I like the idea of self coaching. This books begs for readers to seek out in-person instruction. I've done a fair bit of this in my golfing life and I'm not excited by the prospect of doing more of it.

LynnBlakeGolf is a wonderful website. The gallery is unbelievably good. I'm just waiting for someone to write "The Golfing Machine for Dummies."
One morning with Lynn Blake and you are set for life. Or any of the pros listed on the forum can explain and guide as well. Where do you live?
After that the gallery clips are great. This forum is the dummies book.