My first downstroke thought

Does anyone think of this during the downstroke?

Homer Kelley gave a tip at one of his masters classes (which I heard on tape) that I really like and I use it all the time.

He was talking about the imaginary plane of glass in which your head sticks out and the base is on the plane line. He said to keep your right palm underneath and flat to that plane of glass on the downstroke.

This tip helps me ensure my first move is down and not out and over the top. If your right palm is underneath and facing that imaginary plane of glass, then it's impossible to come over the top.

As I think about this, it seems this focus on the right hand compliments the left hand karate chop.
Originally Posted by Trig Does anyone think of this during the downstroke?

Homer Kelley gave a tip at one of his masters classes (which I heard on tape) that I really like and I use it all the time.

He was talking about the imaginary plane of glass in which your head sticks out and the base is on the plane line. He said to keep your right palm underneath and flat to that plane of glass on the downstroke.

This tip helps me ensure my first move is down and not out and over the top. If your right palm is underneath and facing that imaginary plane of glass, then it's impossible to come over the top.

As I think about this, it seems this focus on the right hand compliments the left hand karate chop.
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Originally Posted by Trig Does anyone think of this during the downstroke?

Homer Kelley gave a tip at one of his masters classes (which I heard on tape) that I really like and I use it all the time.

He was talking about the imaginary plane of glass in which your head sticks out and the base is on the plane line. He said to keep your right palm underneath and flat to that plane of glass on the downstroke.

This tip helps me ensure my first move is down and not out and over the top. If your right palm is underneath and facing that imaginary plane of glass, then it's impossible to come over the top.

As I think about this, it seems this focus on the right hand compliments the left hand karate chop.
I use an "extension" of your method, per 2-N-0, your move is the start of an underhand pitch, I go all the way with that idea..as in I actually visualize throwing the grip of the club butt end first down the fairway. Works for me.
Originally Posted by Trig Homer Kelley gave a tip at one of his masters classes (which I heard on tape) that I really like and I use it all the time.

He was talking about the imaginary plane of glass in which your head sticks out and the base is on the plane line. He said to keep your right palm underneath and flat to that plane of glass on the downstroke.

This tip helps me ensure my first move is down and not out and over the top. If your right palm is underneath and facing that imaginary plane of glass, then it's impossible to come over the top.
Trig,

The 'Palms to Plane' is a great idea, especially for Swingers. Just make sure your students have the correct concept for the angled plane of glass. It is a 'through the waist' Plane of Rotation and not the Hogan Five Lessons idea of 'over the shoulders'.
Originally Posted by Yoda Trig,

The 'Palms to Plane' is a great idea, especially for Swingers. Just make sure your students have the correct concept for the angled plane of glass. It is a 'through the waist' Plane of Rotation and not the Hogan Five Lessons idea of 'over the shoulders'.
I'm afraid you lost me here...why would it be a "through the waist" plane? Assuming a turned-shoulder plane, for instance, wouldn't the imaginary plane of glass more or less rest on the shoulders, a la Hogan's Five Lessons?
I thought the same thing.
Originally Posted by Clay Huestis I'm afraid you lost me here...why would it be a "through the waist" plane? Assuming a turned-shoulder plane, for instance, wouldn't the imaginary plane of glass more or less rest on the shoulders, a la Hogan's Five Lessons?
Nope. See 10-6-B #1. The Plane cuts through your belt line and basically to your arm pit.
I don't have my book here with me, but I can see the picture in my mind...the Plane Board is cut out, with Diane inside it. This makes sense, since the "Hogan" plane would be the Shoulder plane, and the TSP is flatter...I guess I never really looked closely at HOW MUCH flatter. Thanks Bucket, when I get home I will get my book, look Look LOOK and absorb!
Originally Posted by Yoda Trig,

The 'Palms to Plane' is a great idea, especially for Swingers. Just make sure your students have the correct concept for the angled plane of glass. It is a 'through the waist' Plane of Rotation and not the Hogan Five Lessons idea of 'over the shoulders'.
Yoda,
Could you come back to thsi and expalin please. II like the Hogan plane and don't understand how or why to do it with the waist glass image.
Originally Posted by Trig Does anyone think of this during the downstroke?

Homer Kelley gave a tip at one of his masters classes (which I heard on tape) that I really like and I use it all the time.

He was talking about the imaginary plane of glass in which your head sticks out and the base is on the plane line. He said to keep your right palm underneath and flat to that plane of glass on the downstroke.

This tip helps me ensure my first move is down and not out and over the top. If your right palm is underneath and facing that imaginary plane of glass, then it's impossible to come over the top.

As I think about this, it seems this focus on the right hand compliments the left hand karate chop.
As an anti OTT thought it sounds good to me, but isn't focusing on the right bordering the right arm swing?