Stationary Head, possible or impossible?

Our friend Hector wanted a line drawn on these pics, so he did it himself and sent them to me. Thanks, Hector.

Follow-up.

Still more.

The final two.

Initially looking at this sent me scramblin....

1-L. And what does 'stationary' mean?

Per American Heritage (online edition):
Stationary
1a. Not moving. b. Not capable of being moved; fixed.

Uh oh...now I have an issue. The 'standard' definition doesnt meah....however...I believe Homer used this term to designate the head in and of itself. Meaning...the head doesnt move just for moving's sake.

Ok - let me look further.

'Sway' (again, American Heritage Online).
To swing back and forth or to and fro.

Ok, now that makes sense. Certainly the 'head' isnt moving 'back' and 'fro'.

Hmmm... 'Bob'
To cause to move up and down (second and most appropriate definition).

So....

Given the description in 1-L, I am with Lynn - albeit with some 'extra's' courtesy of American Heritage.

Bottom line - the Stationary Head may turn but it does not Bob nor does it Sway.

Thats my stance and I am not going to Bob or Sway on it.....

Originally Posted by phillygolf Thats my stance and I am not going to Bob or Sway on it.....

Now, that's funny.

I noticed that you do this very well when these pictures were first posted.

Can someone with less than optimal flexibility maintain this stationary head:

1. Without introducing compensation

2. Make a GOLF stroke without compensation?

Thanks

Originally Posted by wolfman I noticed that you do this very well when these pictures were first posted.

Can someone with less than optimal flexibility maintain this stationary head:

1. Without introducing compensation

2. Make a GOLF stroke without compensation?

Thanks

Hi Wolfman,
Hopefully, Lynn or Luke are all over this....

However.

I have a question.

If you were to build a machine to do anything - would you want its center to move??? No. Why? Erratic results, correct? Maybe you get lucky one time, but not so lucky the next 550 times.

And that is the crux of the question....at least in my opinion.

Ok....

Where's my rock?

Maybe it is just me, but I have become a very strong believer that to analyze vids or pictures you need a starting point. The starting point that everyone normally uses is the address position (adjusted address) or Impact Fix.

I think you need to start at the real Impact, then go back wards.

Movement of the head by pivot momentum does not negate the stationary head, nor does it mean a sway or bob in all cases.

Lack of flexibility seems as if it would result in either a rotation with the pulling force, else any other movement seems like it would do more than just move the head and require compensation moves to get the head back into an area that the golfer could complete the golf stroke.

But I offer that those who notice movement or repositioning of the head during the early stages of the back stroke and no movement after that is that the adjust address is not correct.

Originally Posted by RatherBeGolfing I do not consider myself very flexible. Here are are a couple of my pics. 6 iron stage 3. You can see I have no trouble with the front view "post" (little to much hip slide maybe), BUT down the line, my head moves forward about three inch's. Note: my weight has not moved my hips forward, it is just my upper body lean. YODA, would you define this move per T.G.M.. Any input OR training aids/drills appreciated.

I would say try 10-16-C, Right Anchor. Meaning - keep some flex in your right knee until sit down. That should tighten up your pivot.

Also - just in case - forget all the 'keep the head still' stuff. Looks to me like you may have overdone it. Remember, allow the head to rotate per 1-L #1 and #2...do not restrict it for restrictions sake. That may free up your turn (look flexible enough to me) so your left shoulder can turn more freely....

Otherwise, read 222 Golf Magazines, take two aspirin and call Yoda in the morning...

Originally Posted by RatherBeGolfing I do not consider myself very flexible. Here are are a couple of my pics. 6 iron stage 3. You can see I have no trouble with the front view "post" (little to much hip slide maybe), BUT down the line, my head moves forward about three inch's. Note: my weight has not moved my hips forward, it is just my upper body lean. YODA, would you define this move per T.G.M.. Any input OR training aids/drills appreciated.

I don't have all the pics or the video, but I'll make some guesstimates. Additionally, I have to agree with Philly about the over-do.
1-L #2: The Post may turn (Pivot) bot does not "sway" or "bob". If you look at our photos side by side, the bill of my cap has turned, where your nose hasn't. Because I don't have the address pics, I don't know if your right hip has cleared to any extent. Instead of worrying about the lack of flexibility or the length of the swing, I would be more concerned with extensor action and allowing the head to turn. Try to keep the head in it's three dimensional space, but allow it to turn.