Simple Question Guys, sorry - Pitching Do You Rotate???

300Drive
When pitching, do you allow your lower body to rotate to the right on the backswing (right handed player), even if 60% of your weight is on your left foot, or do you freeze your lower body on the backswing?

Please advise
Vandal
Isn't there still supposed to be a certain amount of rotation? It's not much, but I think it depends on the length of your backstroke. But, in my limited experience, I must rotate at least a little or my clubface won't get to where it needs to be. I think you just let your educated hands move the pivot?

Take all this with a grain of salt, because in the world of TGM I am more than a newbie.
pluthb
Your focus should be on your hands and if your body moves that is fine. Your hands move and your body is moved, there is a difference. Depending on the length of the shot your pivot should be minimal for your short game. Remember to employ extensor action and you'll be on your way to golfing nirvana.
Yoda
Originally Posted by 300Drive
When pitching, do you allow your lower body to rotate to the right on the backswing (right handed player), even if 60% of your weight is on your left foot, or do you freeze your lower body on the backswing?
300drive,

When Pitching, Swinging or Hitting, the Body should never be "frozen."

Swinging is all about Body Momentum Transfer into the essentially inert Left Arm and Club. You can be very still in a Putt or little Chip and use just the Left Arm to Pull itself through, but by the time you get to the Pitch Shots, you need at least a partial Pivot Motion to help the Left Arm along.

The Hitter uses the Body differently -- the Right Shoulder now acts as a Launching Pad for the drivng Right Arm instead of as a Rotor for the swinging Left Arm -- but some Pivot Motion is still helpful, if not essential.
tongzilla
Originally Posted by Yoda 300drive,
The Hitter uses the Body differently -- the Right Shoulder now acts as a Launching Pad for the drivng Right Arm instead of as a Rotor for the swinging Left Arm -- but some Pivot Motion is still helpful, if not essential.
Why is that?
Is it so that the Pivot can get out of the way for the hands to take a straight line path down to the ball?
Is it also because of Pivot Lag? Do Hitters even have Pivot Lag?

Thanks.
Yoda
Originally Posted by tongzilla
Why is that?

Is it so that the Pivot can get out of the way for the hands to take a straight line path down to the ball?

Is it also because of Pivot Lag? Do Hitters even have Pivot Lag?
The short Pitch Shot requires only an Acquired Motion Backstroke (Right Forearm parallel to the ground) or even less. This is near the bottom of any Full Stroke Sraight Line Delivery Path, and there is little, if any, Straight Line Path remaining for the Hands to take. So, we're basically talking Circle Path Delivery, even though the Thrust will be Straight Line (toward the Ball).

Except for truly incidental Body Motion, the Pivot should work from the Feet up -- Pivot Lag -- and lead the Hands through Impact. This is true for both Hitters and Swingers.
birdie_man
In Hitting, what does Pivot Lag do?

I'm guessing it brings the RShoulder down to a position where the RForearm can Drive from???