10-19-0 5th edition dicussion of Loading with Angle vs. Arc

To whom it may concern,
Why did Mr. Kelley omit this from the 6th edition?
5th editiion
Drive Loading calls for the Angle of Approach procedure(2-J-3) which REQUIRES:
-1. Pre-turned Hips at the Takeaway
-2. a"sliding" DOWNSTROKE body motion
-3. A LINE delivery path
-4. The right forearm tracing the Angle of Approach (Crooss-Line motion 7-23)

Drag Loading calls for the Arc of Approach procedure (2-J-3-A) which requires:
-5. Delayed Hip Action
-6. a "rotating" DOWNSTROKE body motion
-7. A Circle Delivery Path
-8. The right forearm tracing the Arc of Approach (On-line motion 7-23)

I think this very valuable info.... What do ya think? Why was it taken out of the 6th edition....Anybody got an idea?

Bottled Coke and Peanuts,
Annikan

Let's revisit this one...

I find it interesting you can trace the different visual equivalents WITH THE RIGHT FOREARM...True Plane Line, Arc of Approach or Angle of Approach....3 choices????...one line, one arc , or one angle?


Of course this is the 5th edition remember...

Originally Posted by annikan skywalker Let's revisit this one...

I find it interesting you can trace the different visual equivalents ...True Plane Line, Arc of Approach or Angle of Approach....3 choices????...one line, one arc , or one angle?


Of course this is the 5th edition remember...

You mean you can Trace the Arc of Approach, which means you're Tracing a Curved line?

Well.... what did the 5th editon say???..I didn't say it...Homer did at one point in time....it says it right there in the durn print....look for yourself What in the hell did HE mean?

Drag Loading calls for the Arc of Approach procedure (2-J-3-A) which requires:
-5. Delayed Hip Action
-6. a "rotating" DOWNSTROKE body motion
-7. A Circle Delivery Path
-8. The right forearm tracing the Arc of Approach (On-line motion 7-23)

Originally Posted by annikan skywalker Well.... what did the 5th editon say???..I didn't say it...Homer did at one point in time....it says it right there in the durn print....look for yourself What in the hell did HE mean?

Drag Loading calls for the Arc of Approach procedure (2-J-3-A) which requires:
-5. Delayed Hip Action
-6. a "rotating" DOWNSTROKE body motion
-7. A Circle Delivery Path
-8. The right forearm tracing the Arc of Approach (On-line motion 7-23)

Homer meant Tracing the Arc of Approach with the Right Forearm, not the Clubhead. Since the Arc of Approach is a Delivery Line that guides the Clubhead, the Clubhead covers the curved Arc of Approach. This contrasts with the True Geometric Plane Line because both the Right Forearm (and the Clubhshaft/Sweetspot) and the Clubhead Trace that Delivery Line.

Originally Posted by tongzilla Homer meant Tracing the Arc of Approach with the Right Forearm, not the Clubhead. Since the Arc of Approach is a Delivery Line that guides the Clubhead, the Clubhead covers the curved Arc of Approach. This contrasts with the True Geometric Plane Line because both the Right Forearm (and the Clubhshaft/Sweetspot) and the Clubhead Trace that Delivery Line.

Homer meant tracing the Arc of Approach with the right forearm..isn't that what I typed and edited? or NOT!!!

The very same Procedure was described in the "NOTES FROM HOMERS' AUDIO TAPES" where Homer states that all of the research is now complete with the printing of the 7th Edition.

Yes and Homer also said that at no point during his entire study did he feel like he was more than a week away from completion....(I think it was a week....if not, it was two)...

40+ years later.....

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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker To whom it may concern,
Why did Mr. Kelley omit this from the 6th edition?
5th editiion
Drive Loading calls for the Angle of Approach procedure(2-J-3) which REQUIRES:
-1. Pre-turned Hips at the Takeaway
-2. a"sliding" DOWNSTROKE body motion
-3. A LINE delivery path
-4. The right forearm tracing the Angle of Approach (Crooss-Line motion 7-23)

Drag Loading calls for the Arc of Approach procedure (2-J-3-A) which requires:
-5. Delayed Hip Action
-6. a "rotating" DOWNSTROKE body motion
-7. A Circle Delivery Path
-8. The right forearm tracing the Arc of Approach (On-line motion 7-23)

I think this very valuable info.... What do ya think? Why was it taken out of the 6th edition....Anybody got an idea?

Bottled Coke and Peanuts,
Annikan

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Some pretty BIG pieces to have been omitted!!

6-H-O has some of this... but not all.

This... from the 5th Edition, is pretty easy to understand.

Yeah...and this wreaks of MORAD ...The Arc of Approach procedure would be CP and the True Geometric Plane Line would be CF...All the parts come together and the timing is just right.....1980???? 5th edition ...Mac working with Homer 1979-?

What did 10-23-C say in the 5th Edition?

I would like to see some discussion on these HAND PATHS... their relationship to HITTING and SWINGING, AXIS TILTS, CROSS LINE, ON LINE, TRUE GEOMETRIC PLANE LINE, etc..

Originally Posted by lagster What did 10-23-C say in the 5th Edition?

I would like to see some discussion on these HAND PATHS... their relationship to HITTING and SWINGING, AXIS TILTS, CROSS LINE, ON LINE, TRUE GEOMETRIC PLANE LINE, etc..

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No takers on this one? The Angled Line Delivery Path, for example, according to the book, is used when shifting to the Elbow Plane on the Downstroke. There are many good players that do this. Some stay on the Turned Shoulder.

Let's discuss Hand Paths relating to this.

Originally Posted by annikan skywalker To whom it may concern,
Why did Mr. Kelley omit this from the 6th edition?
5th editiion
Drive Loading calls for the Angle of Approach procedure(2-J-3) which REQUIRES:
-1. Pre-turned Hips at the Takeaway
-2. a"sliding" DOWNSTROKE body motion
-3. A LINE delivery path
-4. The right forearm tracing the Angle of Approach (Crooss-Line motion 7-23)

Drag Loading calls for the Arc of Approach procedure (2-J-3-A) which requires:
-5. Delayed Hip Action
-6. a "rotating" DOWNSTROKE body motion
-7. A Circle Delivery Path
-8. The right forearm tracing the Arc of Approach (On-line motion 7-23)

I think this very valuable info.... What do ya think? Why was it taken out of the 6th edition....Anybody got an idea?

Bottled Coke and Peanuts,
Annikan

The short answer is that to leave this in, certainly as written, would suggest that hinge action was tied directly to hit vs swing, that it defined them. You can still swing with angled hinge, or hit with horizontal, so these statements are too limiting. That said, they are reasonable suggestions that explain pretty clearly 'compatible' components.

Originally Posted by EdZ The short answer is that to leave this in, certainly as written, would suggest that hinge action was tied directly to hit vs swing, that it defined them. You can still swing with angled hinge, or hit with horizontal, so these statements are too limiting. That said, they are reasonable suggestions that explain pretty clearly 'compatible' components.

"Compatible Components", ultimately that's what it's all about; and the 10-19-0 in the 5th edition really shines some light--thanks Annikan. I hold optimizing component compatibility as the ultimate skill. The three imperatives plus the three essentials with the set of compatible components that best suite the individual player. Now we're talkin golf.

Originally Posted by annikan skywalker To whom it may concern,
Why did Mr. Kelley omit this from the 6th edition?
5th editiion
Drive Loading calls for the Angle of Approach procedure(2-J-3) which REQUIRES:
-1. Pre-turned Hips at the Takeaway
-2. a"sliding" DOWNSTROKE body motion
-3. A LINE delivery path
-4. The right forearm tracing the Angle of Approach (Crooss-Line motion 7-23)

Drag Loading calls for the Arc of Approach procedure (2-J-3-A) which requires:
-5. Delayed Hip Action
-6. a "rotating" DOWNSTROKE body motion
-7. A Circle Delivery Path
-8. The right forearm tracing the Arc of Approach (On-line motion 7-23)

I think this very valuable info.... What do ya think? Why was it taken out of the 6th edition....Anybody got an idea?

Bottled Coke and Peanuts,
Annikan

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Discuss the Relationship between Drag Loading("striving to accelerate the clubshaft lengthwise") and Circle Delivery Path of the HANDS.

Originally Posted by lagster ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Discuss the Relationship between Drag Loading("striving to accelerate the clubshaft lengthwise") and Circle Delivery Path of the HANDS.

To accelerate the clubshaft lengthwise, force must move 'away from center', circle delivery being the more 'pure' form of that motion.