Books, Books, and more books

Besides TGM by Kelley here are some of the golf books that I love that confirm what Homer found and/or reinforce his basic concepts. Williams book is a jewel of info if you like the science. Hall's is simply great. The Johnson book has drills with plane board and brooms that are GREAT. Alex Hay was ahead of Homer and right on target (FLW/Bent Right).


The Science of the Golf Swing
by Dave Williams

How to Win the Three Games of Golf
by Hank Johnson

Martin Hall's Golf Myths Exposed
by Martin Hall, Steve Hosid

The Mechanics of Golf
by Alex Hay

The search for the perfect swing
by A. J. Cochran, John Stobbs

Does anyone have any others they recommend?

Just thought I would ask.
Originally Posted by kmmcnabb
Besides TGM by Kelley here are some of the golf books that I love that confirm what Homer found and/or reinforce his basic concepts. Does anyone have any others they recommend?
On Learning Golf by Percy Boomer (1946)

How To Play Your Best Golf All the Time by Tommy Armour (1953)
I have "Play your best golf" but not the other book. I will pick that one up. Keep 'em coming folks.

Building up my golf book library (finally got a 2nd Ed. The Science of Golf this week, the internet is awesome for finding treasures)......

Anymore, anyone?
"Golf swing secrets... and lies" by Michael Hebron
Originally Posted by kmmcnabb
I have "Play your best golf" but not the other book. I will pick that one up.
There are many gems in Tommy Armour's book. And since the book remains true to its title How To PLAY Your Best Golf All the Time [Emphasis added], not all of them relate to the Golf Stroke itself. However, there also are a few pitfalls:

1. Be sure to interpret his Swinger's 'Right Hand Hell-Whacking' as the Right Forearm and #3 Pressure sensing Clubhead Lag Pressure and Acceleration -- a very strong correct sensation -- not as a Right Wrist Flattening through Impact ('False Feel' Wrist Action and Throwaway per 6-D-0).

2. Do not overdo the Knee Motion idea (on either the Backstroke or the Downstroke). [You won't if you use the illustrations as a guide.] The Knees and Feet 'anchor' the Stroke. They do move, but only to the extent required to support the motion of the Hips. Their principal function is to keep the Head steady and mantain Balance (two of the Three Essentials).

3. The recommended Grip is a bit '10-2-D-ish' (Left Hand Turned, not Vertical), but not exaggerated. If you've got to err, that's the side to err on. Just be sure to heed the advice and illustration of the Double Cocked Wrist Action at the Top (10-18-B / Cocked and Bent).
Thanks to you both. Yoda, I printed out your post and will put it in the front of the book for reference. Thanks.

K
For starters:

"Better Golf Without Practice," Alex Morrison
"The Golf Swing in the Plural," L.L.B. Angus
Previously mentioned "Science of the Golf Swing," Dr. David Williams (next to the third edition of TGM, one of the hardest books to find). I didn't realize there was another copy out there.

"Golf Swing Secrets and Lies" -Mike Hebron
"Golf Mind, Golf Body, Golf Swing" -Mike Hebron
"The Four Magic Moves to Winning Golf" -Joe Dante

For the pictures:
"Swing to Better Golf" Louis T. Stanley
Ben Hogan's Power Golf
Sam Snead's How I Play Golf
"How to Feel A Real Golf Swing" - Toski/Love

An excellent description of how to 'swing'.
The Golf Manual by Alex Hay.

Strong correlation to TGM but no references to it or use of any of the terminology.
Thanks for the help everyone. I have added them to my list, I especially appreciate the comments on what to look for in each. I collect most for pictures but have tried to find those from TGM folks to reinforce the yellow book.

I picked up the Williams book second edition (old library book) for about 60 bucks (with shipping). Got really lucky when it came up on abe book exchange and ordered it right away. Has the library stamps but the pages are crisp and clean. Really looks like no one ever read it. Of course it is a second edition so the cost should be less. Since I wanted the info and don't plan to sell it, first edition was not a problem. I ordered his published paper from Qtrly Journal of Mechanics and Applied Mathematics. Once it arrives, I will pdf it and if anyone else wants it, just shoot me your email and I will send it to you. Give me a week or so for it to get here.

I also added more Alex Hay books (thanks Burner) and plan to look at them carefully. No TGM terms but lots of TGM action (FLW/BRW, etc).

Thanks all.
Have got to agree with Yoda about Percy Boomer's "On learning golf" - not only written in a charming, anecdotal style (a bit like having him round at a dinner party!) but full of wonderful descriptions of the golf swing. He gets so much of the mechanics as per TGM, even some concepts which you hear in TGM circles like " mind is in your hands" may have origins in Boomer. One extract from chapter V ( "to keep your eye on the ball" reads as follows:-

"Now in this matter of seeing the ball I would ask you to consider ...How does a very good golfer see the ball? In my opinion through his very highly developed sense of feel he see the ball ( in some proportion) through his hands"

And there is so much morewonderful observation of good golfing technique... all it lacks is Homer's ability to say "why" these things are true.

Another good book is Joe Dante's " Four magic moves to winning golf". He actually uses the term " blacking out" to describe the lack of feel most golfers have after halfway through backswing ( ="downswing blackout") and his early wrist break is not so different to the Manzella " twistaway" in that it produces early palmar flexion of the left wrist, dorsiflexion of the right which at the top of the backswing is now flat left wrist and non-open clubface. They both stop you slicing!

It seems that Homer, like Sir Isaac Newton, ".. have seen a little further because they stood on the shoulders of giants". Their genius was to observe what happens and understand why the apple fell.
Thanks. I have added those to my list too. I hope to have a pretty complete library for my son when he gets a little bit bigger. One thing I know for sure, with help from folks like you it won't take him over 20 years to get a good, mechanically solid, swing.

Thanks all.
The Skeptical Golfer by James S Rothenberg: highly original, obviously very intelligent and analytical, may be wrong though, but entertainingly so...
For the Hogan fans, I think that this is one of the best books written
and could be the missing link to Hogan's secret. The book is written
by V.J. Trolio with Dave Hamilton. Pg24 "THE MISSING PIECE IS THE
LATERAL MOVEMENT OF BEN HOGAN'S HIPS FORWARD AND OVER
HIS LEFT LEG, PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION OF HIS BACKSWING. V.J.
did some excellent research and has some great pictures to back up
his findings.
Originally Posted by dkerby The book is written
by V.J. Trolio with Dave Hamilton.
A book you say??
By V.J.?
V.J. did you write a secret book???
Originally Posted by EdZ
"How to Feel A Real Golf Swing" - Toski/Love
Nobody knows how to better communicate the 'Feels' a real Golf Swing than our own EdZ. His well-known EdZ Drills are superb and are offered free of charge for those who would embrace their best golf.

Just yesterday I read on another site the post of a low-handicap player who described just how beneficial these drills have been to him.

Thank you, Ed, for all you do here!
Bucket,

Still Surfing, but still looking for the elusive third edition. Unsuccessfully, I am afraid .

As a member of the "Golf Collectors Society", you would think that one of the thousands of members would have a copy of the third edition for sale, but alas, my wishes go unfulfilled. But, I will keep on surfing. The first copy I get, however, is promised to another (in case he is reading).

Funny thing is that there are plenty of four editions to be had; even more so than the fifth edition . The early fourth editions tend to fall apart at the seams, but still plenty of good information.
GOLF IS NOT A GAME OF PERFECT- DR.BOB ROTELLA .Particularly the "practice to improve"section
Originally Posted by neil GOLF IS NOT A GAME OF PERFECT- DR.BOB ROTELLA .Particularly the "practice to improve"section
Read Pia Nilsson's Every Shot Must Have a Purpose and you'll think Rotella is a pasta. An amazing book.
Originally Posted by kmmcnabb Besides TGM by Kelley here are some of the golf books that I love that confirm what Homer found and/or reinforce his basic concepts. Williams book is a jewel of info if you like the science. Hall's is simply great. The Johnson book has drills with plane board and brooms that are GREAT. Alex Hay was ahead of Homer and right on target (FLW/Bent Right).


The Science of the Golf Swing
by Dave Williams

How to Win the Three Games of Golf
by Hank Johnson

Martin Hall's Golf Myths Exposed
by Martin Hall, Steve Hosid

The Mechanics of Golf
by Alex Hay

The search for the perfect swing
by A. J. Cochran, John Stobbs

Does anyone have any others they recommend?

Just thought I would ask.
Martin Hall's Golf Myths book is the only one that I haven't read. But, I can't find it on Amazon.com. There aren't even any used copies. I've also searched the rest of the Internet. Does anybody know where I can get it? Anybody with an extra copy?



Thanks
Originally Posted by noproblemos Martin Hall's Golf Myths book is the only one that I haven't read. But, I can't find it on Amazon.com. There aren't even any used copies. I've also searched the rest of the Internet. Does anybody know where I can get it? Anybody with an extra copy?
hanks
Here you are LOOKIT
Originally Posted by Burner Here you are LOOKIT
Burner
Thanks for the information.
Hogan,Snead,Byrd and many more went to "Wild" Bill Mehlhorn, member in the first Ryder Cup Team, when help was needed.

His book GOLF SECRETS EXPOSED, is one that everybody should have. Very interesting reading on how the "oldies" swung the club. And the ideas are,imo, still valied today
Originally Posted by Amen Corner "Wild" Bill Mehlhorn, member in the first Ryder Cup Team...

His book GOLF SECRETS EXPOSED, is one that everybody should have. Very interesting reading on how the "oldies" swung the club. And the ideas are,imo, still valied today
I strongly endorse Bill Mehlhorn's book.

In August 1990, I met Bobby Shave, the co-author and inspiration behind the book and the guy who recorded the sessions. [The book is basically a transcription of several Q&As with members of the Florida International University golf team in Miami.] Later, I spent time with him hitting shag balls and talkin' golf in an open field near his home in Homestead, Florida. Two years later, Hurricane Andrew destroyed the city, and I lost contact.

The personal history and stories are great -- Hagen, Hogan, Vardon, Sarazen, Diegel, Armour, Picard, Runyan, Bulla, Demaret, Locke, Boros, Jones...they're all there -- and to this day, I use several of his drills in most every Academy class and private lesson. Drill I educates the Pivot with its Weight Transfer. Drill II educates the Arms and Hands in their Body-Related Hinge Action. Drill III educates the Hands as to their Basic Fanning Motion. Drill IV, the Right Forearm Takeaway and return to Impact Fix. With Drill V, you can actually 'see' the Plane. Drills VI-XIII are more of the same, and Plate IX illustrates the golfing Ideal from a down-the-line view -- "the arms swinging up, down and up as the legs rotate the body."

Get the book.

Read it.

Study it.

You'll be glad you did.

The Science of the Golf Swing
by Dave Williams
i have never been able to find this book any suggestions

thanks

bob crissy
It is hard to find. Yoda has the original article posted here somewhere. Book is similar but longer. I recommend it if you can find it but read the article here to decide.


Kevin
I recently acquired a copy of "Henry Cotton - My Golfing Album". I found it a very interesting read and worth getting if an instruction book junkie like me.

I also got at the same time "Sam Snead - How to play Golf". Fabulous pictures and definately worth getting for that alone.

So add these to my prior list...lol
Just started the book by Printer and Bertrand which chronicles work with Schlee and Hogan. Thus far it is interesting and if the first chapters are indicators, more secrets to come. If nothing else, I hope to learn more about John Schlee since I met him way back in the early, early 80s in conjunction with a Maximum Golf School visit (my dad, not me). Interesting guy, and my dad swore by his teaching so much that I eventually got Maximum Golf book and tape which I found not too useful (but I didn't go to the school).

I will let out more details as I read.

Kevin
kmmcnab,
did you get the Golf Secrets Exposed book, yet?