Swinging and half swings

Anyone got any comments about swinging for half swings, such as a 50 yard shot? Swinging on these short shots seems a little cumbersome for me. Is hitting a better option or do i need to make adjustments when swinging?

This is why i suggest hitting for all chips and pitches.

The reason is that for a short shot, there is not much "force" that is "built up" in the backswing. So there is more "waiting" involved and it takes more time. If you rush it, you over accelerate and skull/fat the ball.

If you hit these shots, just pick it up and slam it back down. It's a no brainer.

Originally Posted by jim_0068 This is why i suggest hitting for all chips and pitches.

The reason is that for a short shot, there is not much "force" that is "built up" in the backswing. So there is more "waiting" involved and it takes more time. If you rush it, you over accelerate and skull/fat the ball.

If you hit these shots, just pick it up and slam it back down. It's a no brainer.

Or you can cock it up and SLING it down.

Thanks guys. It's just as i suspected.

jim_0068, can i pick your brain regarding over accelerating? Are you referring to the hands? What's the difference between accelerating and over accelerating as it relates to the endless belt? From what i understand about the endless belt effect the hands move at a constant speed? If i'm right, then accelerating is the problem?

Just trying to lift some fog here.

Originally Posted by revert Anyone got any comments about swinging for half swings, such as a 50 yard shot? Swinging on these short shots seems a little cumbersome for me. Is hitting a better option or do i need to make adjustments when swinging?

If you're not comfortable when Swinging with half swings, then you really haven't mastered Swinging with full swings.

My bias for hitting isn't my personal bias, it's just what i've noticed teaching. Teaching hitting for the short game (even if i'm teaching them swinging for the long game) just seems to work better for most people.

if you are a swinger you better stay a swinger throughout drive to putt.use horizontal hinging and swinging for all shots.i showed lynn when he was in vegas how i do this out of the bunker.veery effecient even in the sand.you only have to adjust your grip put #3 on top of the shaft and you you normal stroke with horizontal hinge action.#
3 on top will not let the face close even the it feels the sane as hiiting a drive.pretty simple to just alter your grip and to make the same stroke.this allows you to keep constant acceleration through impact,but the shot will be vry soft when it lands.it is also very easy to flop it this way

Originally Posted by john riegger if you are a swinger you better stay a swinger throughout drive to putt.use horizontal hinging and swinging for all shots.i showed lynn when he was in vegas how i do this out of the bunker.veery effecient even in the sand.you only have to adjust your grip put #3 on top of the shaft and you you normal stroke with horizontal hinge action.#
3 on top will not let the face close even the it feels the sane as hiiting a drive.pretty simple to just alter your grip and to make the same stroke.this allows you to keep constant acceleration through impact,but the shot will be vry soft when it lands.it is also very easy to flop it this way

Interesting method. Thanks John.

Originally Posted by john riegger you only have to adjust your grip put #3 on top of the shaft and you you normal stroke with horizontal hinge action.#
3 on top will not let the face close even the it feels the sane as hiiting a drive.

John,

I tried this at the range at lunch time and am slightly confused

To put PP#3 on top of the shaft do you turn the right hand around to a "weak" position?

Thanks

Sean

Originally Posted by tongzilla If you're not comfortable when Swinging with half swings, then you really haven't mastered Swinging with full swings.

Tong . . .what do you "feel" and Monitor on your half swing Swings?

I think it is good practice to really get the feeling of CF Uncocking the wrist to full-lever extension. Eddie Cox is a BIG proponent of this.

What's your description of these shots like?

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket Tong . . .what do you "feel" and Monitor on your half swing Swings?

I think it is good practice to really get the feeling of CF Uncocking the wrist to full-lever extension. Eddie Cox is a BIG proponent of this.

What's your description of these shots like?

Just miniture full swings really...if I hit it hard enough so that my hands finish swivels then I just let that happen.
On the course, I just see hole and try to get the ball into the hole...never ever think about CF, etc...

open the face slightly and adjust both hands weak.#3turned counterclockwise so it is on top of the shaft,instead of behind the shaft.this is for shots for less than 30 yds,bunker shots also,anytime you need to gt the ball up and stop it.this is a great procedure so try and figure it out experiment monitor your hands and look at the clubface in relation to your hands.at both arms straight you should have all your alignments the same as basic motion horit. hinge with a flat lft wrist but the face will still be open.remember to look look keep monitoring your hands then the clubface.hope this helps.very precise procedure