Roll - Hinge - Swivel

I've been working on my finish swivel lately with good results.

I'm still a bit confused about the downstroke roll prior to the hinge action and whether this is something you should 'feel' happening.

I find that sometimes my uneducated hands get lazy and return the club hosel first into the ball (ala hitting on the way down).

Concentrating on a definate clubface 'closing' roll feeling on the downstroke prevents it but is this a thing that should conciously be happening?

BTW - Angled hinges are the ones that i find most likely to end in hosel rockets due to my brain thinking 'no roll'

Thanks!
Originally Posted by bergsey I've been working on my finish swivel lately with good results.

I'm still a bit confused about the downstroke roll prior to the hinge action and whether this is something you should 'feel' happening.

I find that sometimes my uneducated hands get lazy and return the club hosel first into the ball (ala hitting on the way down).

Concentrating on a definate clubface 'closing' roll feeling on the downstroke prevents it but is this a thing that should conciously be happening?

BTW - Angled hinges are the ones that i find most likely to end in hosel rockets due to my brain thinking 'no roll'

Thanks!
The answer depends on the quality of your pivot. A good pivot will 'allow' the roll, but many are not flexible enough, or do not have a solid enough pivot to begin - more of an 'all arms' move at the extreme, or they simply can't turn through well (keep the left foot open, not square).

As a step towards learning, begin with as 'full' a roll as you can. You will find that the rotation of your lead forearm will help teach your body to move through. It also helps offset some backswing/plane issues. As you improve, you will notice that the 'rates' of turning match up - same RPM's -

A great training aid to teach you this is a figure 8 strap. It will help you learn the feel of pivot and arms/rotation rate through the shot. Doing 'split grip' drills from hip to hip is another good way to learn this.
Thanks EdZ, been working on quietening down my pivot as well as it was a bit all over the place. Sounds like there are no major dramas conciously applying the roll until i get things into sync more.

As i mentioned getting good results so i don't mind for now unless i was heading down another dark path!! cheers