Single Wrist Action

It seems that I've found my Pot-of-Gold. 10-6-B, 10-13-A, and 10-18-F. Simple, repeatable, good Loading, and it contributes to an excellent Longitudinal Pull feel. Better than Standard Wrist Action.

Originally Posted by Yoda What Daryl is saying is...

Use the Turned (Right) Shoulder Plane and eliminate any Start Up Swivel in the Backstroke.

From there, delay the Release by keeping the Left Hand Palm Down (to the Plane) -- and the Right Hand Palm up -- through the Release Point and then Swivel into Impact.

Am I right, Daryl?

Quite Right. And 10-18-C #1 has fewer moving parts than a Start Up Swivel. Besides, the Downstroke Pre-Hinge Swivel on a Turned Shoulder Plane has more continuity while tracing a Straight Plane line. Especially compared to that of returning to an Elbow Plane from a Double Shift. These mechanics contribute to the Longitudinal Pull feeling that I've been missing rather than the 'yank Ye-O club around' feeling I've become accustomed to.

This has the makings of a great thread.

I say the 10-18-C-1 backstroke is indistinguishable from 10-18-A. The amount of true wrist rotation which is suppose to distinguish between the two is the same. The only difference is that 10-18-C-1 happens more gradually and 10-18-A more suddenly in the beginning of the stroke.

One piece of advice for those trying to apply this info to their own swing. Use the wrist action you're most comfortable with to keep the Clubshaft On Plane. I see so many people who are doing well, and then they learn about Standard Wrist Action (Start Up Swivel) and they start going under plane and all sorts of compensations start creeping in.

I would have to say that right now I use 10-6-A Elbow Basic not by choice but rather that's what plane best describes what my swing looks like.

Question: the subjects address position in the picture 10-6-B#1 shows the right wrist really uncocked. Is this required by the plane?

CW

Question: the subjects address position in the picture 10-6-B#1 shows the right wrist really uncocked. Is this required by the plane?


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Originally Posted by tongzilla This has the makings of a great thread.

I say the 10-18-C-1 backstroke is indistinguishable from 10-18-A. The amount of true wrist rotation which is suppose to distinguish between the two is the same. The only difference is that 10-18-C-1 happens more gradually and 10-18-A more suddenly in the beginning of the stroke.

One piece of advice for those trying to apply this info to their own swing. Use the wrist action you're most comfortable with to keep the Clubshaft On Plane. I see so many people who are doing well, and then they learn about Standard Wrist Action (Start Up Swivel) and they start going under plane and all sorts of compensations start creeping in.

True - it can be very easy to turn too much and end up off/under plane. That said, there is a 'big' difference between the two (startup swivel vs none).

I tend to 'feel' this via my left shoulder and the clear feel of getting 'under' the shaft, while really feeling the 'line of the left arm/club/wristcock going 'UP' the plane.

The feel for that 'line' is the key benefit of the medicus 2000 IMO. The trick is getting the 'up plane' while not letting the clubhead get behind your hands in the startup.

The swinger's feel for the left arm flying wedge (loading the left wrist - 10-18-A), the hitter's feel for the right arm flying wedge (loading the right elbow - 10-18-C)

Originally Posted by Yoda What Daryl is saying is...

Use the Turned (Right) Shoulder Plane and eliminate any Start Up Swivel in the Backstroke.

From there, delay the Release by keeping the Left Hand Palm Down (to the Plane) -- and the Right Hand Palm up -- through the Release Point and then Swivel into Impact.

Am I right, Daryl?

What is meant by Turned (Right) Shoulder Plane?

Originally Posted by jerry1967 What is meant by Turned (Right) Shoulder Plane?

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They must be talking about the Turned Shoulder Basic Plane Angle. Make a Flat Backstroke Shoulder Turn, then draw your line from the ball up to the right shoulder. You can also usually get this one by drawing a line from the ball up under the right arm pit at Address.

According to the book... a Rotated Backstroke Shoulder Turn( which is a Steeper Shoulder Turn)... can also locate a Turned Shoulder Plane Angle.