Chipping - #3 Accumulator

Toolish
I was looking for thoughts on zeroing the #3 accumulator when chipping...been trying it, seems to make distance control easier, feels a bit weird though!
Toolish
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Yoda
Originally Posted by Toolish
I was looking for thoughts on zeroing the #3 accumulator when chipping...been trying it, seems to make distance control easier, feels a bit weird though!
Homer Kelley recommended the Zero #3 procedure for Chipping, i.e., putting the Club in-line (horizontally) from Left Shoulder to Clubhead.

In January 1982, I snapped a down-the-line photo of him in the converted garage outside his home in Seattle. There were no automobiles in this garage...at least not in this half.. it had long since become his dedicated Golfing Laboratory. In the photo, Homer is standing inside his Inclined Plane -- the same one in the book -- and is clearly gripping the Club in the cup of the Left Hand, one of three ways to Zero the #3 Accumulator.

I'll see if I can't dig that photo out, scan it in and put it up for all to see.

Meanwhile, experiment with using the Reverse Overlap Grip (10-1-C) to get this job done. You may find that the extended Left Forefinger makes it a bit easier to locate the Club in the lifeline of the Left Hand. It may also feel more secure (especially until the necessary hand strength and grip pressures have been developed).

For the record, Homer used the standard Overlapping Basic Grip (10-1-A) in the Strong Single Action Variation (10-2-B). Why didn't he use the Reverse Overlap?

"What do I need with another grip? One is hard enough to learn!"
jim_0068
i think it works pretty well but not as an "all the time" procedure.
blehnhard
I have used a variation of this (chipping with a putting setup) - shaft more vertical than lie (club resting on toe). Ball comes off softly with much less backspin allowing one to make a longer / firmer stroke without the ball jumping off the clubface. The hard part is knowing when to change the method back to basic stroke.

Bruce
brownman
Originally Posted by blehnhard I have used a variation of this (chipping with a putting setup) - shaft more vertical than lie (club resting on toe). Ball comes off softly with much less backspin allowing one to make a longer / firmer stroke without the ball jumping off the clubface. The hard part is knowing when to change the method back to basic stroke.

Bruce
As a matter of interest,have u ever used a chipping stroke on putter ,I use it if there are longish mounds just in front of greens.Deadly accurate and u dont need to hit it hard
birdie_man
Originally Posted by jim_0068 i think it works pretty well but not as an "all the time" procedure.
IYO, when would not be a good time Jim?
jim_0068
Very short chip shots were it makes more sense to chip it with zero'd out #3, open face, and firm stroke instead of trying to keep the #3 and play some kind of cut/lob/flop type shot.

Also works well out of heavy rough.
O.B.Left
Originally Posted by Yoda Homer Kelley recommended the Zero #3 procedure for Chipping, i.e., putting the Club in-line (horizontally) from Left Shoulder to Clubhead.

In January 1982, I snapped a down-the-line photo of him in the converted garage outside his home in Seattle. There were no automobiles in this garage...at least not in this half.. it had long since become his dedicated Golfing Laboratory. In the photo, Homer is standing inside his Inclined Plane -- the same one in the book -- and is clearly gripping the Club in the cup of the Left Hand, one of three ways to Zero the #3 Accumulator.

I'll see if I can't dig that photo out, scan it in and put it up for all to see.

Meanwhile, experiment with using the Reverse Overlap Grip (10-1-C) to get this job done. You may find that the extended Left Forefinger makes it a bit easier to locate the Club in the lifeline of the Left Hand. It may also feel more secure (especially until the necessary hand strength and grip pressures have been developed).

For the record, Homer used the standard Overlapping Basic Grip (10-1-A) in the Strong Single Action Variation (10-2-B). Why didn't he use the Reverse Overlap?

"What do I need with another grip? One is hard enough to learn!"

Wonder if Yoda ever located this photo of Homer? I'd love to see it.
JesseV
It would be cool to see that photo...

I'm just so new here and am trying to catch up on all the history. This is one of the neatest things I've done in a long time.

Hmmm, neat, cool? my age is showing....
Yoda
Originally Posted by O.B.Left Wonder if Yoda ever located this photo of Homer? I'd love to see it.
I've dug the photo out of storage, but it's in my Atlanta home, and I'm now at Cuscowilla. Mrs. Yoda, my daughter, her husband, and four of my five grandgremlins are scheduled in over the 4th. I'll ask her to bring the album.

I snapped it in January 1982, thirteen months before Homer died. It is among my favorites, one I'm more than willing to share with the Golf World.

Stay tuned!

O.B.Left
Originally Posted by Yoda I've dug the photo out of storage, but it's in my Atlanta home, and I'm now at Cuscowilla. Mrs. Yoda, my daughter, her husband, and four of my five grandgremlins are scheduled in over the 4th. I'll ask her to bring the album.

I snapped it in January 1982, thirteen months before Homer died. It is among my favorites, one I'm more than willing to share with the Golf World.

Stay tuned!


Thanks for this Yoda. Looking forward to seeing it.

OB

P.S Three ways to zero #3? In the lifeline, under the heal of the left hand but with a fully uncocked left wrist? Cant imagine another way of getting the club in line with the left arm when chipping.
JesseV
One of the great things about Yoda and the LBG Golf site is the sharing of the historical record. Without history we have nothing - The history is our heritage to this great game of golf, to our country and to Homer and The Golfing Machine.

So few had the privilege to learn at the hand of the master Homer Kelly. How great is it that Yoda shares all his knowledge with us? I've read many, many posts from Yoda and he is always saying that the sharing of The Golfing Machine is something Homer would always be extremely proud of.

I know I'm new, still, I know Homer would be proud of Yoda for all he does for TGM, its history and for all of us.

Thank you again Yoda!
JesseV
Almost forgot.

Happy 4th of July to America, to Yoda, his family and friends, to everyone here at LBG!

God Bless America, God bless you all!
neil
Originally Posted by Toolish I was looking for thoughts on zeroing the #3 accumulator when chipping...been trying it, seems to make distance control easier, feels a bit weird though!
One variation I use is zero#3 ,closed face (because heel is off the ground).
This is great for just off the fringe when you want the ball to release.Comes off very low and rolls out .Just be smooth and keep the hands moving.
drewitgolf
Originally Posted by neil One variation I use is zero#3 ,closed face (because heel is off the ground).
This is great for just off the fringe when you want the ball to release.Comes off very low and rolls out .Just be smooth and keep the hands moving.
Basic Motion in a nutshell with 3-F-5-A.