TGM Translation of One Plane Swing

The Jim Hardy ONE PLANE SWING has been around now for a couple of years. I have heard a couple of different twists on it, but most are similar.

This is my TGM translation--

Setup Posture is per 9-1-1 #2 --Bent over

Takwaway-- Very similar to 10-6-E, but the Right Elbow gets into the Feel of a Push type position, per 10-3-C. The Actual Plane Angle will probably be Elbow Plane.

Rotated Shoulder Turn

This is a SWING, because of the Spinning Body(shoulders).

Single Wrist Action

Right Shoulder Throw

Simultaneous Release with Right Elbow in Punch Position

Arc of Approach

Some people seem to really like this Swing. One of the benefits of TGM, is that you can break down nearly any kind of Swing(Stroke), and figure out what is going on.

Agreed it is more towards an angled hinge swinging motion, push elbow as he teaches it, although I think many would be better off forgetting that 'spin' and going with a true hit from that position. I do like the right shoulder throw from that plane angle if swinging however, very powerful. The concern with that much forward bend from the hips is that balance can not be maintained without very good flexibility. Those without it tend to come out of posture very easily.

Originally Posted by lagster The Jim Hardy ONE PLANE SWING has been around now for a couple of years. I have heard a couple of different twists on it, but most are similar.

This is my TGM translation--

Setup Posture is per 9-1-1 #2 --Bent over

Takwaway-- Very similar to 10-6-E, but the Right Elbow gets into the Feel of a Push type position, per 10-3-C. The Actual Plane Angle will probably be Elbow Plane.

Rotated Shoulder Turn

This is a SWING, because of the Spinning Body(shoulders).

Single Wrist Action

Right Shoulder Throw

Simultaneous Release with Right Elbow in Punch Position

Arc of Approach

Some people seem to really like this Swing. One of the benefits of TGM, is that you can break down nearly any kind of Swing(Stroke), and figure out what is going on.

If I keep my right forearm on plane and left wrist level, am I really just a Moe Norman type swinger?

Patrick

This is a very interesting topic. Very educational

Originally Posted by innercityteacher If I keep my right forearm on plane and left wrist level, am I really just a Moe Norman type swinger?

Patrick

Howsabout we modernise and call you a Steve Stricker Swinger or a Brian Gay Hitter... They made a lot more $$$

Kevin

No offense to Mr. Norman, I love MOE!

Kevin

Where is BG from? But OK, let's do that, too!


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Patrick

Originally Posted by KevCarter Howsabout we modernise and call you a Steve Stricker Swinger or a Brian Gay Hitter... They made a lot more $$$

Kevin

No offense to Mr. Norman, I love MOE!

Kevin

There were many more videos like these when the "one plane swing" began. Some are missing. I remember one with Hardy giving a lesson, teaching the same thing.







I'm not much of a fan of the "lawnmower crank" Start Up. I think it's opposite of the desired Right Elbow location in Release. So, I disagree with the preparation.

Originally Posted by YodasLuke There were many more videos like these when the "one plane swing" began. Some are missing. I remember one with Hardy giving a lesson, teaching the same thing.

I'm not much of a fan of the "lawnmower crank" Start Up. I think it's opposite of the desired Right Elbow location in Release. So, I disagree with the preparation.

YodasLuke,

Would you say the lawnmower move gets the club shaft under plane as opposed to the right forearm fanning Homer Kelley preached?

I wouldn't criticize a great teacher like Mr. Hardy, but I much prefer what we are learning here...

Kevin

Originally Posted by KevCarter YodasLuke,

Would you say the lawnmower move gets the club shaft under plane as opposed to the right forearm fanning Homer Kelley preached?

I wouldn't criticize a great teacher like Mr. Hardy, but I much prefer what we are learning here...

Kevin

When the motion is done on a horizontal plane, you can see the full scope of the error. It's not that it can't be done. But, there's no way to justify the exaggerations that I've seen practiced. It's troubling that the camera angles of Mr. Hardy, seen on YouTube, are at 45 degrees from the plane angle.

I would say that the failure to bend the right arm with the pulling of the right elbow behind the body cause the club to move under plane.

I have nothing against Mr. Hardy. I've heard nothing but praise for him. But, I can hate the motion, if it breaks laws.

I can tell you that I tried the Hardy one plane method for a couple of years. I too, have a lot of respect for him but I just couldn't get it. One thing I will say though is that especially in the beginning, Hardy was very much a proponent of using exaggerations to get the body motions retrained. I heard him say if you "over do" something that is opposite what you were doing, it would help you to be able to feel the difference and ultimately make the swing change.
I know a few people who seem to be doing well with the one plane swing, but I am glad I found this place. As I embark on this TGM journey, I hope I finally found a way to consistently hit the ball solidly.