Left arm only

Can somebody please explain to me how to swing with only the left arm ?

I think it was Mathew who suggested this was important for swinging but I just can't seem to get it. I have no control of the club when trying this. Is the left thumb used for pressure behind the shaft ?

In the Tom Tomasello correspondance video he shows this motion of the left arm with an almost acquired motion and it looks so efforltess. I have also tried the double overlap with some success.

grip down a bit for a start, and use a short club.

Using the left arm only helps to teach you how to pivot properly. If your pivot stops you can't hit the ball and will bend the wrist.

Also helps you to feel lag.

Start with a short grip and short swings, then work up...like you do with a 2 handed swing. Once you have it happening alternate 1 armed and 2 armed to get feelings to carry over.

Originally Posted by KnighT Can somebody please explain to me how to swing with only the left arm ?

I think it was Mathew who suggested this was important for swinging but I just can't seem to get it. I have no control of the club when trying this. Is the left thumb used for pressure behind the shaft ?

In the Tom Tomasello correspondance video he shows this motion of the left arm with an almost acquired motion and it looks so efforltess. I have also tried the double overlap with some success.

It is a good thing to do this as it can teach you many things.

Basically if you can't hit the ball in the general direction that you want with each hand seperately, you are very unlikely to be able to do it with both.... The best advantage I have found of doing this though is that it teaches you to maintain the left flying wedge, the awareness of the hinge action and swivels. It also makes you keep the left wrist flat - you will hit it like crap without the right hand skillfully throwing if you disrupt the orbit. You will also work out that it is not left arm power either but pp4 that pushes against the primary lever assembly to drive it into impact.

Originally Posted by Mathew Basically if you can't hit the ball in the general direction that you want with each hand seperately, you are very unlikely to be able to do it with both....

This is very true.

This easier to accomplish if you simply hang on with the hand and let the pivot take your hand to it's respective aiming point.

Originally Posted by KnighT Can somebody please explain to me how to swing with only the left arm ?

I think it was Mathew who suggested this was important for swinging but I just can't seem to get it. I have no control of the club when trying this. Is the left thumb used for pressure behind the shaft ?

In the Tom Tomasello correspondance video he shows this motion of the left arm with an almost acquired motion and it looks so efforltess. I have also tried the double overlap with some success.

To start - swing back with both hands and let go with the right as you start down. It can be helpful to split your grip when doing this.

As mentioned, use a short club/wedge, and begin with chip shots or better, begin with putting until you really get the feel. A great way to learn the feel for PP#2.

Another way to REALLY get the feel for what the Vertical Uncocking Motion of the Left Wrist is to just take the club in your left hand. Hold it where it is lined up with your left shoulder. And HAMMER THE HECK OUT OF THE GROUND.

That is simply the Throw Out Motion of the Swinger on a VERTICAL Plane.

Next move to Impact Fix and HAMMER ON THE INCLINED (ANGLED) PLANE. Don't worry about Rolling at this point. Just HAMMER and you'll end up hammering WAY BEHIND where the ball would be. This will give you a feel of the THROW OUT action on the Inclined Plane.

Once you get the feel for Uncocking Perpendicular Motion you can then jack it up with the Transfer Power of the Rolling #3 Accumulator and take this into where the ball would actually be on the Plane Line.

This process really isolates what it truly means to have a DYNAMIC Flat Left Wrist.

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket And HAMMER THE HECK OUT OF THE GROUND.

and HAMMER ON THE INCLINED (ANGLED) PLANE... Just HAMMER and you'll end up hammering ...

looks like the meds are wearing off...




but it sounds like a good drill... thanks

Originally Posted by golfbulldog

looks like the meds are wearing off...




but it sounds like a good drill... thanks

Naw . . . I think Mike O slipped me a roofie .

Yeah that drill is AWESOME . . . I have seen Yoda do it. He actually demos it on the Address series on the inclined plane. But you can really get the feel by moving back and forth between the inclined and vertical planes.

If you throw it out according to Mr. Kelley you have no impetus to flip whatsoever. Throw it out and roll it through.

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
If you throw it out according to Mr. Kelley you have no impetus to flip whatsoever. Throw it out and roll it through.

This has the sound of a very great truth about it...even experimenting in the house it seems that throwing the left wrist causes forces to act solely in the plane of the wristcock...you just couldn't bend the left wrist even if you wanted to !

I guess it ties in with the "prepare to roll on the plane" stuff too... because once you have thrown that left wrist uncock you have to trust that forearm rotation...it happens so fast !

I look forward to seeing what everyone else has to say about it.

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket Yeah that drill is AWESOME . . . I have seen Yoda do it. He actually demos it on the Address series on the inclined plane.

i cannot find this demo and would really, really like (need) to see it. any ideas as to where...i watched the two address vids, but not the ted fort one, as i'm not a hitter. any help would be appreciated.

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket Another way to REALLY get the feel for what the Vertical Uncocking Motion of the Left Wrist is to just take the club in your left hand. Hold it where it is lined up with your left shoulder. And HAMMER THE HECK OUT OF THE GROUND.

That is simply the Throw Out Motion of the Swinger on a VERTICAL Plane.

Next move to Impact Fix and HAMMER ON THE INCLINED (ANGLED) PLANE. Don't worry about Rolling at this point. Just HAMMER and you'll end up hammering WAY BEHIND where the ball would be. This will give you a feel of the THROW OUT action on the Inclined Plane.

Once you get the feel for Uncocking Perpendicular Motion you can then jack it up with the Transfer Power of the Rolling #3 Accumulator and take this into where the ball would actually be on the Plane Line.

This process really isolates what it truly means to have a DYNAMIC Flat Left Wrist.

I understand the first motion you talk about, but on the 2nd move, could you go into more detail as far as what it would look like. At impact Fixed, my FLW is perpendicular to the plane?? Clubface is facing the ball. Is this where you want to hammer, or do you want me to hammer with my FLW horizontal to the plane (clubface facing away from me)??

TIA.

Another thing great about the left arm swing is that it teaches a correct way to take the club back. Swing it back with your left arm and see the left hand on the incline plane. Now grip your right hand on the club. It will take a few times to feel comfortable when you use your right hand at start up.

Originally Posted by KnighT Can somebody please explain to me how to swing with only the left arm ? ...................

Hold the backswing halfway up and then grap the Clubhead with the Right Hand. Then keep PULLING the club DOWNWARD, OUTWARD and FORWARD (the "Intent/Cause") with a straight Left Arm (powered by shoulder rotation or/and left arm action) slightly before (so that you can Load it with some "LAG") letting go the Right Hand.

You will clearly see and feel (without the involvement of the right side) how the Club(head), the Clubface, the Left Wrist, the Left Arm, ... do exactly what they are supposed to do (the "Effect") (at least for "Swinging"), at least geometrically.

For your regular (Swinging) swing, the Right side is supposed not to disrupt , but reinforce , that Motion and Action.

Swinging left arm only has been my favorite drill this summer. It's really helped my pivot, but most of all, it's shown me how to uncock my left wrist down and through the plane line, and by extension , how to use centrifugal force to create clubhead speed.

Originally Posted by bts Hold the backswing halfway up and then grap the Clubhead with the Right Hand. Then keep PULLING the club DOWNWARD, OUTWARD and FORWARD (the "Intent/Cause") with a straight Left Arm (powered by shoulder rotation or/and left arm action) slightly before (so that you can Load it with some "LAG") letting go the Right Hand.

You will clearly see and feel (without the involvement of the right side) how the Club(head), the Clubface, the Left Wrist, the Left Arm, ... do exactly what they are supposed to do (the "Effect") (at least for "Swinging"), at least geometrically.

For your regular (Swinging) swing, the Right side is supposed not to disrupt , but reinforce , that Motion and Action.

Im really struggling w/ this left arm right arm swing concept. Specifically for me, I think i understand the feeling of swinging w/ left arm. Left arm only drills and what that does for you pivot...Where it gets grey is right arms role then...specifically how the the pitch elbow and extensor action fit into this. Is extensor action another way of saying as you stated "right arm role of reinforcing"?. If right arm is passive how do you provide structure of pitch elbow and extensor action?

Originally Posted by sasquatch_mn Im really struggling w/ this left arm right arm swing concept. Specifically for me, I think i understand the feeling of swinging w/ left arm. Left arm only drills and what that does for you pivot...Where it gets grey is right arms role then...specifically how the the pitch elbow and extensor action fit into this. Is extensor action another way of saying as you stated "right arm role of reinforcing"?. If right arm is passive how do you provide structure of pitch elbow and extensor action?

Great question. The Right Arm for a Swinger is Passive. That means that the Right Arm doesn't Accelerate in such a way that it would move either the Primary or Secondary Levers.

During Startdown and the Downstroke, the force placed on the Power Package can be considerable and can collapse its structure (flying Wedges). Extensor Action works by check-reining the Left Arm so the structural alignments remain undisturbed.

Here's how it works.

Make a fist with your Right hand. Extend your Right arm in front of you like you're throwing an uppercut punch (like the Tiger Wood fist pump). Your right elbow is bent and Pitched and the palm of your right fist is facing you.

Grasp your right fist with your left hand and straighten the Left Arm. Now, try to bend your left elbow but resist by not allowing your right elbow to bend any farther. You're using right Triceps Muscle and the force direction is below plane.

As you resist, your right arm is not accelerating and the Power Package becomes rigid enough for the structure to remain stable against Pivot forces. It only requires enough Right Triceps resisting force to maintain a rigid Power Package Structure.

Originally Posted by Daryl Great question. The Right Arm for a Swinger is Passive. That means that the Right Arm doesn't Accelerate in such a way that it would move either the Primary or Secondary Levers.

During Startdown and the Downstroke, the force placed on the Power Package can be considerable and can collapse its structure (flying Wedges). Extensor Action works by check-reining the Left Arm so the structural alignments remain undisturbed.

Here's how it works.

Make a fist with your Right hand. Extend your Right arm in front of you like you're throwing an uppercut punch (like the Tiger Wood fist pump). Your right elbow is bent and Pitched and the palm of your right fist is facing you.

Grasp your right fist with your left hand and straighten the Left Arm. Now, try to bend your left elbow but resist by not allowing your right elbow to bend any farther. You're using right Triceps Muscle and the force direction is below plane.

As you resist, your right arm is not accelerating and the Power Package becomes rigid enough for the structure to remain stable against Pivot forces. It only requires enough Right Triceps resisting force to maintain a rigid Power Package Structure.

Ok I believe Im on the right track then as to what extensor action feels in my swing. Although I wish I know what my right arm is doing when theres a ball there??? As far as pitch elbow how does that element in swinging procedure occur? Is it then a biproduct of pivot and pulling from left? I was on the range and really forced my elbow almost to a point in front of the ball at impact. I got some solid strikes w/ wedge but w/ longer clubs didnt work so well. Just something that has contributed to darkening my journey in search of a reliable swing procedure.