left arm swivel takes place when

jerry1967
left arm swivel takes place before or after impact?
6bmike
Originally Posted by jerry1967 left arm swivel takes place before or after impact?
Both- if you are a Swinger. A Swinger uses a Release Swivel before impact due to the Standard Wrist Action and employs a Finish Swivel after impact.

A Hitter uses ONLY a Finish Swivel since he uses a Single Wrist Action.

And add a third for a Swinger if you count the Start Up Swivel used by the Standard Wrist Action.

Three for Swingers and one for Hitters. Don’t allow the Swivel to haphazardly take you off the Plane Line.
jerry1967
Should these swivels be automatic or do I have to think about them? I am a swinger I think.

Also I need some definitions please:

1.Release Swivel-

2.Standard Wrist Action-

3.Finish Swivel-
12 piece bucket
I would say Finish Swivel begins somewhere around when the left arm passes the left shoulder socket thingie.
Seanmx
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket I would say Finish Swivel begins somewhere around when the left arm passes the left shoulder socket thingie.
Or just after both arms straight?
Yoda
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
I would say Finish Swivel begins somewhere around when the left arm passes the left shoulder socket thingie.
Hinge Action -- holding the Left Wrist Vertical (or perpendicular) to one of the three Basic Planes (Horizontal, Vertical or Angled) -- is in operation from Impact to the end of the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight position) per 7-10. The Arms will be well-extended past the Left Shoulder and the Clubshaft will be about 45 degrees to the ground. Then, Swivel Action -- "Snap Rolling the Hands into their On Plane Condition" (2-G; 4-0; 4-D-0) -- takes over as the Left Wrist Rolls from its Vertical alignment and creates the bridge to the Finish (12-3 #41).

In essence, Hinge Action is an Arm Motion (for Clubface Control) whereas Swivel Action is a Wrist Motion (for Clubhead Control).
12 piece bucket
Originally Posted by Yoda Hinge Action -- holding the Left Wrist Vertical (or perpendicular) to one of the three Basic Planes (Horizontal, Vertical or Angled) -- is in operation from Impact to the end of the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight position) per 7-10. The Arms will be well-extended past the Left Shoulder and the Clubshaft will be about 45 degrees to the ground. Then, Swivel Action -- "Snap Rolling the Hands into their On Plane Condition" (2-G; 4-0; 4-D-0) -- takes over as the Left Wrist Rolls from its Vertical alignment and creates the bridge to the Finish (12-3 #41).

In essence, Hinge Action is an Arm Motion (for Clubface Control) whereas Swivel Action is a Wrist Motion (for Clubhead Control).
Gotcha boss!
jerry1967
The three Basic planes:
1.Horizontal-?

2.Vertical-?

3.Angled-?
6bmike
Originally Posted by jerry1967 The three Basic planes:
1.Horizontal-?

2.Vertical-?

3.Angled-?
Horizontal is the ground- flat.
Vertical is a wall 90 degrees to horizontal or incline- perpendicular
Angled is a roof attached to the horizontal plane at any degree- incline

Horizontal- Inclined Plane line, Stance Line, Target Line, Low point Plane Line (under the ground but horizontal and flat)
Angled- Basic Plane angles for clubshaft control-incline plane angles such as Elbow or Shoulder.
Vertical-Any and ALL perpendicular motions in the golf stroke and conceptually the toughest one to recognize. It is all perpendicular, vertical or ninety degree angles. The “wall” can be at alongside your hip or behind your back - perpendicular to the ground or it can be mounted perpendicularly to an incline plane. This is where it is attached when the Left Arm Flying Wedge throws out Accumulator Number two. All Vertical motion is ninety degrees to this vertical wall.