Right Forearm Pick Up?

ndwolfe81
Could someone please help me with the right forearm pick up. When do you start to pick it up?

Should you fan the right forearm and then pick it up?

I would like to understand this some more!

Nathan
8cork
Originally Posted by ndwolfe81 Could someone please help me with the right forearm pick up. When do you start to pick it up?

Should you fan the right forearm and then pick it up?

I would like to understand this some more!

Nathan
Have you watched the David Orr video about the right forearm takeaway? It will help you to better understand what is really happening.
In my own experience, The fanning starts first, while tracing the plane line. The up back and in parts naturally happens due to extensor action and the check rein of the left arm. It's just a fanning and cocking of the right elbow.
Seanmx
The Tomasello videos in the Gallery section are an excellent place to learn the RFT.
6bmike
Originally Posted by ndwolfe81 Could someone please help me with the right forearm pick up. When do you start to pick it up?

Should you fan the right forearm and then pick it up?

I would like to understand this some more!

Nathan
The Right Forearm Take- Away, Homer called it the Right Forearm Pick Up and freaked out the golfing world. It is the only Hands Controlled Take-Away. You are setting up at address for a certain point through the ball and the RFT allows for this on the Down Stroke.

The RFT goes Back Up and In, as Homer says, “Up and Back, Simultaneously and Immediately.” Back Up and In is the Incline Plane. Some say it can be a Fanning motion or a one hand clapping motion, as long as it is on the Incline Plane- Back, Up and In. This motion will, of course, fold the right elbow, raise the left arm and cock the left wrist. The 7-3 Magic.

Snap the left wrist flat with Extensor Action and you got the makings of great stroke.
ndwolfe81
My right arm moves to low and around my body. My left arm moves across my chest to much and my shaft gets below the plane. For the last few months my miss has been a pull.

Yesterday I flet like I just picked my right forearm straight up and I actually started some balls out to the right. I don't get it.

So is just picking the right forearm straight up, NOT the right forearm pickup?
ndwolfe81
Originally Posted by 6bmike The Right Forearm Take- Away, Homer called it the Right Forearm Pick Up and freaked out the golfing world. It is the only Hands Controlled Take-Away. You are setting up at address for a certain point through the ball and the RFT allows for this on the Down Stroke.

The RFT goes Back Up and In, as Homer says, “Up and Back, Simultaneously and Immediately.” Back Up and In is the Incline Plane. Some say it can be a Fanning motion or a one hand clapping motion, as long as it is on the Incline Plane- Back, Up and In. This motion will, of course, fold the right elbow, raise the left arm and cock the left wrist. The 7-3 Magic.

Snap the left wrist flat with Extensor Action and you got the makings of great stroke.

Is this the same move as moving the right elbow back up and in, like Hardy is teaching? I don't think this is what you mean, I would just like to understand better.
6bmike
Originally Posted by ndwolfe81 Is this the same move as moving the right elbow back up and in, like Hardy is teaching? I don't think this is what you mean, I would just like to understand better.
No- NOT like Hardy. Forget position golf. The RFT is about the Hands fanning up and back on the Incline Plane. The hardest thing about teaching the RFT is that is so simple. Pick the Hands up the inclined plane.

Watch the video I made for David Orr. Although he is explaining the motion with Bio-Mechanics terminology- it is the Right FOREARM, moved by the Hands, which turns the right shoulder to the Top of the Stroke. Forget about Elbow Position. The Load and Left Wrist Action will set that ALIGNMENT. Allow the Hands to travel on the Incline Plane and they will move Back and Up naturally.
spike
6bmike,

Very cool. RFT makes sense now. More of a reaction to the hands and extensor action than a pulling feeling?
alex_chung
RFT was really simple concept when Yoda explained it to me.
Basically put your left arm out in front of you (standing upright) and then with you right hand hold your left wrist (making sure you have your left wrist in FLV alignments) and the lift up your left arm with your right arm. That is the right forearm pickup really.
Now repeat the same motion but in a golf like posture. Pretty easy right?
Alex
DukeNasty
Originally Posted by alex_chung RFT was really simple concept when Yoda explained it to me.
Basically put your left arm out in front of you (standing upright) and then with you right hand hold your left wrist (making sure you have your left wrist in FLV alignments) and the lift up your left arm with your right arm. That is the right forearm pickup really.
Now repeat the same motion but in a golf like posture. Pretty easy right?
Alex
This is the exact same way that Yoda explained it to me...just like in the Tomasello video. Amazing how a lesson with the little green genius makes things so simple!

E.
davel
Is the David Orr video still in the gallery? I can't seem to find it.

Dave



Originally Posted by 8cork Have you watched the David Orr video about the right forearm takeaway? It will help you to better understand what is really happening.
In my own experience, The fanning starts first, while tracing the plane line. The up back and in parts naturally happens due to extensor action and the check rein of the left arm. It's just a fanning and cocking of the right elbow.
6bmike
Originally Posted by davel Is the David Orr video still in the gallery? I can't seem to find it.

Dave
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery...ry.php?cat=517

Under Lynn Blake in the Gallery. David does a nice job looking at the RFT from a different perspective that really shines light on the motion.
golfbulldog
Originally Posted by 6bmike No- NOT like Hardy. Forget position golf. The RFT is about the Hands fanning up and back on the Incline Plane. The hardest thing about teaching the RFT is that is so simple. Pick the Hands up the inclined plane.

Watch the video I made for David Orr. Although he is explaining the motion with Bio-Mechanics terminology- it is the Right FOREARM, moved by the Hands, which turns the right shoulder to the Top of the Stroke. Forget about Elbow Position. The Load and Left Wrist Action will set that ALIGNMENT. Allow the Hands to travel on the Incline Plane and they will move Back and Up naturally.
Word by 6bmike / bold by me

Mike - fanning on the plane suddenly made alot more sense! A different motion to what i had previously envisaged which was fanning in relation to horizontal plane rather than the inclined plane - but now i see the up and in component more readily... is this correct? I always see claping hands as horizontal to ground... now on plane(inclined) clapping makes more sense! Thanks

PS . If Homer saw Freddy Couples doing this... why does Feddy do it off plane in take away?? Also do you agree that RFT requires good pivot to make it work properly - even to the point of training the pivot first?
6bmike
Originally Posted by golfbulldog Word by 6bmike / bold by me

Mike - fanning on the plane suddenly made alot more sense! A different motion to what i had previously envisaged which was fanning in relation to horizontal plane rather than the inclined plane - but now i see the up and in component more readily... is this correct? I always see claping hands as horizontal to ground... now on plane(inclined) clapping makes more sense! Thanks

PS . If Homer saw Freddy Couples doing this... why does Feddy do it off plane in take away?? Also do you agree that RFT requires good pivot to make it work properly - even to the point of training the pivot first?

Even though the clapping motion will “seem” like a pure horizontal movement, it isn’t. You are in an address angle- the hands do move up and back even if you just ‘feel’ back.

My RFT could easily feel like a big fan to the right with a folding right elbow raising the left arm but looked at from the back view, you would see the right forearm move up and back, simultaneously.

Ben Doyle told us that Freddie was the inspiration for the right forearm take-away. Maybe not the carbon copy for it.

You can easily train the take-away side of the Pivot with the RFT because the Hands are actually moving the body with a delayed Hip Action. Perfection! Down Stroke- got to train that side from the bottom up
strav
Originally Posted by 6bmike No- NOT like Hardy. Forget position golf.

What is the difference between “position golf” and the positions that Homer advocates for study and practice for example:
The relations of all Machine positions and motion can be described by a geometric figure. (1-L-21)
In 2-D-1. MAJOR DIRECTIONAL FACTORS he includes:
Power Package Component Position
Pivot Component Position
Address Position Impact

“Take advantage of the fact that the Hands are better at moving into a position than at holding a position “(3-B)

Chapter 4 is titled Wrist Positions and therein he advises ‘practice all Wrist positions and motions….’

In 6-A-4. he speaks of the “normal” position of the Arms. “Fix positions” in 6-B 2-0 and “Right Forearm Position at the Top” (7-3)

Finally, in 8-0 “This twelve Section arrangement presents a chain of Basic Positions and Motions through which every Stroke must pass.
How do all these positions differ from ‘position golf’?