Learning Golf

OK and I are trying to provide a view of life inside the ropes. We try to share things going on out on tour and how we see tour players behave. Why they are so good. Surely, we want to model parts of their games to improve our own. But how do we transition from where we are to where we want to be?

From Chapter 14. "Shifting back from the "You Program" to the "Ball Program" during the Stroke is extremely hazardous for the learner. But finally may come the time when the intended Ball behavior could be all the conscious programming you'll need to do, and still produce the required Ball Behavior."

How do we progress from the learner and his need for large portions of self-awareness to the "expert" who has trained himself to the point he only needs to see the intended flight? Even tour players are not immume as they make swing changes or seek to find old form.

Could we define some steps to bridge this gap?

HB

HB & OK,

I admire and usually print out most of your posts on the site because I think they are jewels. You are heading into a big topic here, with another book deal one of the possible outcomes. Maybe you could track a few careers as they have evolved from unknown to tour caliber. You guys have the insight. And a great way to communicate.

Good luck.

UPP in stunning Ohio

Originally Posted by Hennybogan OK and I are trying to provide a view of life inside the ropes. We try to share things going on out on tour and how we see tour players behave. Why they are so good. Surely, we want to model parts of their games to improve our own. But how do we transition from where we are to where we want to be?

From Chapter 14. "Shifting back from the "You Program" to the "Ball Program" during the Stroke is extremely hazardous for the learner. But finally may come the time when the intended Ball behavior could be all the conscious programming you'll need to do, and still produce the required Ball Behavior."

How do we progress from the learner and his need for large portions of self-awareness to the "expert" who has trained himself to the point he only needs to see the intended flight? Even tour players are not immume as they make swing changes or seek to find old form.

Could we define some steps to bridge this gap?

HB

I think this is where the rubber meets the road . . . for some reason some people get this game better and quicker than others. Is it talent or learning? Do we all have ample enough talent to be low handicappers or is it beyond capabilities or can we learn it? If so HOW? Seems like kids can learn anything . . . something gets screwed up somehow for most of us.

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket I think this is where the rubber meets the road . . . for some reason some people get this game better and quicker than others. Is it talent or learning? Do we all have ample enough talent to be low handicappers or is it beyond capabilities or can we learn it? If so HOW? Seems like kids can learn anything . . . something gets screwed up somehow for most of us.

Bucket,

We all get what we get. Are there some people who can't be low handicappers? Probably. Is it easier for some than others? Yes. Does it help to start young, get good instruction, and be around a bunch of good players? Definitely. What if we did not have these advantages?

You have to be smart about how you learn the game. Consistent imput about the swing=TGM. Good use of time on short game and putting. Learning to manage the game and yourself. Get some clubs you like and stick with them. Same with the ball. Try to eliminate as many variables as possible. Hit the same shot. Play smart but aggressive.

Bucket, I think you are due for a break out season. You are doing all the right stuff, you just have to patient with the results.

HB

Originally Posted by Hennybogan Bucket, I think you are due for a break out season. You are doing all the right stuff, you just have to patient with the results.

HB

HB,
I totally agree that Bucket is a Patient and he's got some kind of breakout- is that what you were saying?

About a year or so ago, I was introduced to Keygolf. Just the ability to define certain concepts, and realise they are measurable, have freed me from past blockages towards understanding.

For example: Building a Belief System

1. Trust (developed in the first year of your life)
2. Knowledge
3. Skill development/management
4. Confidence

These are what's inside a belief system. Carey Mumford is truly hot in this area!

Originally Posted by Hennybogan OK and I are trying to provide a view of life inside the ropes. We try to share things going on out on tour and how we see tour players behave. Why they are so good. Surely, we want to model parts of their games to improve our own. But how do we transition from where we are to where we want to be?

From Chapter 14. "Shifting back from the "You Program" to the "Ball Program" during the Stroke is extremely hazardous for the learner. But finally may come the time when the intended Ball behavior could be all the conscious programming you'll need to do, and still produce the required Ball Behavior."

How do we progress from the learner and his need for large portions of self-awareness to the "expert" who has trained himself to the point he only needs to see the intended flight? Even tour players are not immume as they make swing changes or seek to find old form.

Could we define some steps to bridge this gap?

HB

Separate the result from the process (routine).

I like to drill on the range doing shots in a more rapid sequence where my ONLY thought is the trajectory/shape - moving through each shape/trajectory in no particular order, but through each - all to the same target. Then the same but 10 yards closer/farther etc, all with the same club (usually my 7 iron).

This gets the 'auto pilot' in shape with the visuals I am focused on. My focus is on the entire ball flight, not just a starting line.

After a few rounds through that process, I go back to 'full' routine and do the same thing. At least for me, the more I can truly 'see', the better the results. If my mind is busy worrying about some part of the motion, rather than 'seeing', the result is not as good.

Originally Posted by EdZ Separate the result from the process (routine).

I like to drill on the range doing shots in a more rapid sequence where my ONLY thought is the trajectory/shape - moving through each shape/trajectory in no particular order, but through each - all to the same target. Then the same but 10 yards closer/farther etc, all with the same club (usually my 7 iron).

This gets the 'auto pilot' in shape with the visuals I am focused on. My focus is on the entire ball flight, not just a starting line.

After a few rounds through that process, I go back to 'full' routine and do the same thing. At least for me, the more I can truly 'see', the better the results. If my mind is busy worrying about some part of the motion, rather than 'seeing', the result is not as good.

EdZ,

Sounds like a very good program.

HB