ANGLE OF ATTACK AND APPROACH DRAWINGS

I was inspired to do these drawings by Mr. Lynn Blake himself. He presented these drawings to us at our school a couple of weeks ago. With these drawings he helped us all realize that this is what it is all about. They have made teaching so much easier when students finally see what it is they are actually trying to do with the golf club.

I am sure Lynn will explain these in more depth.

Forever Hitting,
Hunter

Great drawings. They got me thinking.

Do these names "attack" and "approach" coincide with airplane flight terminology If so, when landing a planes "angle of attack" measures steepness while "angle of approach" measures runway alignment; right

If the viewpoint for both drawings was perpendicular to the inclined plane, would not the angle of attack and approach be the same, just oriented 180* from each other

SOS
Originally Posted by sos Great drawings. They got me thinking.

Do these names "attack" and "approach" coincide with airplane flight terminology If so, when landing a planes "angle of attack" measures steepness while "angle of approach" measures runway alignment; right
These Lines are, in fact, one and the same. One -- the Angle of Attack -- appears to the Golfer (from his 'above the Plane' view) to be inscribed upon the face of the Inclined Plane. The other --the Angle of Approach -- is its Visual Equivalent and appears to be inscribed upon the ground.
Originally Posted by sos Great drawings. They got me thinking.

Do these names "attack" and "approach" coincide with airplane flight terminology If so, when landing a planes "angle of attack" measures steepness while "angle of approach" measures runway alignment; right

If the viewpoint for both drawings was perpendicular to the inclined plane, would not the angle of attack and approach be the same, just oriented 180* from each other

SOS
I haven't landed a Cessna in years but I don't remember a reference to an attack angle- at least not in the jargon of landing an airplane. We did use an angle of approach when landing and it was a downward angle that took the aircraft down to the beginning of the runway- a most important place to get to- you didn't want to be so close to the ground and not be short or long on the approach.

Lynn, for all of us city folk- how does a King Fischer attack?
[quote="6bmikeI haven't landed a Cessna in years but I don't remember a reference to an attack angle- at least not in the jargon of landing an airplane. We did use an angle of approach when landing and it was a downward angle that took the aircraft down to the beginning of the runway- a most important place to get to- you didn't want to be so close to the ground and not be short or long on the approach.

Lynn, for all of us city folk- how does a King Fischer attack?[/quote]

Ahhh! But you did have an "angle of attacK". This "angle of attack" is measured on the wing (airfoil). You controled the wing angle of attack with the "stick or wheel". You controled the rate of decent ( angle of approach) with the throttle.

I don't know what this has to do with golf but it was fun thinking about it again.
I hated "touch and goes." lol
Originally Posted by 6bmike I hated "touch and goes." lol
Nice pics, a great 'sticky' that should be added to the top of the 'must view' threads in the beginner's section

I've never flown (well, landed anyway), but I played quite a lot of golf on an airforce base as a kid, I loved watching the F-16's do their touch and go runs, those guys know how to fly! To this day I swear I hit one with a wedge approach to the 16th hole, flying in a bit low that time!
Looks like in INCREDIBLY deep divot, no?
Originally Posted by brianmanzella Looks like in INCREDIBLY deep divot, no?
Rob's drawings are merely illustrative (of the geometric Principles) and are not 'to scale.' In actuality, a five foot Shoulder-to-Ball Radius (as opposed to the two inch Radius in the graphic) would have a much longer arc and hence a far more shallow Divot, even with the Ball located well behind Low Point.
I don't get it...
is the clubhead following the "clubhead orbit" in the diagram or is following the angle of attack?
Originally Posted by noproblemos I don't get it...is the clubhead following the "clubhead orbit" in the diagram or is following the angle of attack?
The Clubhead is following the Clubhead Orbit. The Angle of Attack is that straight line drawn on the face of the Inclined Plane (and viewed from above it) that connects the Impact Point and Low Point. This is Impact's Downward Dimension.

That same line viewed upon the ground is the Angle of Approach (Impact's Forward Dimension).

Impact's Outward Dimension is determined by the Angle of the Inclined Plane.
If the Right Forearm Angle of Approach were also on this drawing, it would be a line parallel to the Angle of Approach line just intersecting at a point farther down the Plane Line, right?
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket If the Right Forearm Angle of Approach were also on this drawing, it would be a line parallel to the Angle of Approach line just intersecting at a point farther down the Plane Line, right?
Normally...

Yes.
Originally Posted by Hunter I was inspired to do these drawings by Mr. Lynn Blake himself. He presented these drawings to us at our school a couple of weeks ago. With these drawings he helped us all realize that this is what it is all about. They have made teaching so much easier when students finally see what it is they are actually trying to do with the golf club.

I am sure Lynn will explain these in more depth.

Forever Hitting,
Hunter

It looks like these images were lost during the forum conversion. I have just started studying the arc and angle of approach procedures. Can someone please repost these pictures?

Thanks in advance!
Can the drawings be resurrected?
Originally Posted by vjcapron
It looks like these images were lost during the forum conversion. I have just started studying the arc and angle of approach procedures. Can someone please repost these pictures?
We'll get on it, guys. Thanks.
Any luck on these drawings? Looking forward to them, thanks.
What was once lost, has been found.

Bagger
Angle of attack is the line draw on the plane while tracing the angle of attack of the clubhead
Assuming if we have a laser sitting perpendicular to the plane (or a Flash Light in Homer’s day) tracing the Angle of attack line, the projection of the laser on the ground = the Angle of approach.