What are the fundamental alignments of a good Pivot?

We talk so much about the Hands, Wrist Action, Lag Pressure, the Right Forearm, Hinge Action . . . all basically Power Package alignments . . .

So since we are talking Alignment Golf . . . let's talk about the Alignments in the Pivot. Homer said something like the Pivot was the sack you put everything in (OK that's teed up HIGH for the goofballz in the romper room).

But talk to me about first the FUNCTION of the Pivot and what Alignments you think should be present and how the should move in space and in relation to what e.g. Delivery Lines, Plane Angles, Stance Lines, Hand Paths etc.

Holla back.

Do you want all the spine shifts and axis tilts for arc and angle of approach and the relationship of the arms to the body ? Rotated or Flat shoulder turn ?
Swinging or Hitting.
How low or high of a shot ? Hook Slice? Or just
"a free turn in both directions"

Originally Posted by denny Do you want all the spine shifts and axis tilts for arc and angle of approach and the relationship of the arms to the body ? Rotated or Flat shoulder turn ?
Swinging or Hitting.
How low or high of a shot ? Hook Slice? Or just
"a free turn in both directions"

How about lets start with STANCE and go from there. Alignments?

Originally Posted by denny Rotated or Flat shoulder turn ?
Swinging or Hitting.
How low or high of a shot ? Hook Slice? Or just
"a free turn in both directions"

I want to hit one of those hook slice things!

Around the trees to the left, around the trees to the right, ON THE GREEN!

Originally Posted by Yoda Begin with the idea that the Body is the Rotor in a Centrifugal Motion whose model (and ultimate perfection) is the Gyroscope . . .

Two words come to mind . . .
















Ben Hogan

Originally Posted by denny Do you want all the spine shifts and axis tilts for arc and angle of approach and the relationship of the arms to the body ? Rotated or Flat shoulder turn ?
Swinging or Hitting.
How low or high of a shot ? Hook Slice? Or just
"a free turn in both directions"

That's what I'm talking about . . . deep end of the pool.

Let's go Big'Un!!!

Pick one and let's start hammering and welding it together.

Cast the first line in the pond and I'll put some pictures on the hook if I can find some good ones to support you.

Mark! Set! Go!

You nailed me. Actually my daughter (that's me) is typing this message at the moment: "My dad types at four words per minute - I'm getting paid four bucks a minute to type this, but then he knows it won't take me thirty seconds.

He DOES work twelve hours a day, but golf IS his life in a way few other people have devoted themselves to a passion - and if it wasn't for this website, he'd never even peck at a keyboard.

He says he's learned a great deal from George Kelnhofer, Chuck Evans, Lynn Blake, Mac O'Grady, and Homer Kelley - as well as from other contributors on these sites. And he is dedicated to always becoming a better teacher. He thanks you, Lynn, for your kind words and for keeping Homer's teachings alive."

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket We talk so much about the Hands, Wrist Action, Lag Pressure, the Right Forearm, Hinge Action . . . all basically Power Package alignments . . .

So since we are talking Alignment Golf . . . let's talk about the Alignments in the Pivot. Homer said something like the Pivot was the sack you put everything in (OK that's teed up HIGH for the goofballz in the romper room).

But talk to me about first the FUNCTION of the Pivot and what Alignments you think should be present and how the should move in space and in relation to what e.g. Delivery Lines, Plane Angles, Stance Lines, Hand Paths etc.

Holla back.

The PIVOT transports the POWER PACKAGE. Its a MOTION. The direction, or as you are want to say "alignment" of the pivot is dependant on stance line, hip action, etc,etc.

Originally Posted by denny Do you want all the spine shifts and axis tilts for arc and angle of approach and the relationship of the arms to the body ? Rotated or Flat shoulder turn ?
Swinging or Hitting.
How low or high of a shot ? Hook Slice? Or just
"a free turn in both directions"

Denny . . . don't be a tease . . .get yerazz back over here so we can make this thread go!!!

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket Denny . . . don't be a tease . . .get yerazz back over here so we can make this thread go!!!

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I agree... this could be a good one!!!! Shoulder Turn, Hip Turn, Hip Action, Knees, Feet, Spine, Head, Tailbone, COG Transfers, etc.

Just because one believes in Hands Controlled Pivot, does not mean that the Pivot cannot be worked on. The 3 Zones... Body is #1, and if this is not working well, the Arms, and Hands will have a hard time doing their jobs.

Many more moving Parts in Zone #1.

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I agree... this could be a good one!!!! Shoulder Turn, Hip Turn, Hip Action, Knees, Feet, Spine, Head, Tailbone, COG Transfers, etc.

Just because one believes in Hands Controlled Pivot, does not mean that the Pivot cannot be worked on. The 3 Zones... Body is #1, and if this is not working well, the Arms, and Hands will have a hard time doing their jobs.

PIVOT Example - revolving door.

Mechanical - That motion of a body moving around a center point.
Golf - A multiple universal-joint assembly between the Stationary Head and the Stationary Feet holding the Clubshaft “On Plane” by positioning and adjusting the Lever Assembly, through the #3 Accumulator, as directed by the Right Forearm.

PIVOT CENTER Example - thetherball pole.
Mechanical - The point on which an assembly is suspended or erected to stabilize and limit that assembly’s possible travel - the Hinge Pin.
Golf - Some point on the body kept stationary throughout the Stroke, to stabilize the motion

7-12 PIVOT The Pivot is the utilization of multiple centers to produce a circular motion for generating Clubhead Force on an adjustable Plane. Plus the maintenance of balance throughout the weight shifts that accompany the turning and bending of the necessary for the two Line Delivery Paths. A Pivot is on superficially correct that fails to maintain alignments or allows the player to get “out of position”.

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Originally Posted by tradekid The PIVOT transports the POWER PACKAGE. Its a MOTION. The direction, or as you are want to say "alignment" of the pivot is dependant on stance line, hip action, etc,etc.

Pivot work is not done after power package transportatin...after power package is blasted into orbit...ie. arm swing....it continues to move to allow power package to maintain in plane line requirement...

At least that is the way I see it.... it transports and powers and aligns the power package until blast off( release acc.4)...then it moves to allow maintaining of FLW and straight plane line tracing....more accomodating motion rather than powering motion.

Please correct me if you think that this is wrong. Thanks.