Sequenced Release... (video)

Heres a video I made to start up a conversation which I believe will make a good discussion.

Originally Posted by Mathew Heres a video I made to start up a conversation which I believe will make a good discussion.

Hurray for 10-18-B. Finally, someone agrees with me.

However, you’re assertion in your last sentence that only 10-18-B can be sequenced is wrong. The #3 Accumulator Roll occurs because of the Right Hands’ geometry to Plane, not the Left Hand. Paddlewheel vs. Karate Chop. If the Right Hand remains Turned to Plane after Release begins (Right Elbow begins to Straighten, Left Wrist Uncocks), then it is Sequenced.
If one uses 10-18-B, then the Clubshaft is laying on the Turned Shoulder Plane at Release and he can Swivel the #3 Accumulator on the Turned Shoulder Plane. With 10-18-A, the Swinger Rolls the #3 Accumulator on the Elbow Plane. The Right Hand Motion is the same for both Procedures, but the FEEL is different because FEEL depends which plane the Clubshaft is Rolling on.

Swiveling on the Turned Shoulder Plane does not have the Wallup that Rolling on the Elbow Plane has.

One cannot Roll the Clubshaft on a Turned Shoulder Plane with a FLW/BRW but you can on the Elbow Plane. Hogan Rolled on the Elbow Plane with 10-18-B. That's unusual.

Matthew,

I viewed the video. I think you have opened up a great avenue to communicate ideas. I have no opinion on your topic, but others should chime in with their views. Thank you again for paving the way.

UPP in wintry Ohio

New Video on this :

i wish everything on this site was discussed with videos. as t.t.said, the book should have come with an instructor. i would slove to have the audios and videos that were made at the tgm seminars. fkeep up the good work, and bring on the videos.

Originally Posted by Mathew New Video on this :

Following an entire day of lengthy investigation, and a review of Mathew’s second video presentation, I’ve concluded that one can Sequence the Release with a FLW/BRW on any Plane Angle. I withdraw all statements in my previous post except when I said that Mathew is wrong.

New video shedding light on 7-3 in regards to what I've said so far...

i am not able to see you hands because of the darkness. when do you think the roll occurs.

Originally Posted by Uppndownn Matthew,

I viewed the video. I think you have opened up a great avenue to communicate ideas. I have no opinion on your topic, but others should chime in with their views. Thank you again for paving the way.

UPP in wintry Ohio

Matthew
I would like to endorse Uppndown's comments and congratulate you again on your use of video. Your animation on Hinges three years ago was an eye opener and elicited my first post on this forum. Hopefully you will encourage others to make more use of this neglected and underutilized technology which can and will accelerate our understanding. I appreciate your pioneering.

Matthew,

Can I just check that the end result of what you are saying is that on the downswing/swinging/sequenced release...

- the left wrist is bent in order for the sweetspot and pp3 to stay on plane. Is that correct?

- And then for the sequenced release to occur... the left wrist uncocks on plane...with a left wrist that is bent and gradually straightens....and then rolls...is that correct?

Thanks

A bent left wrist is not mandatory -to some it is good as it helps to prevent throwaway when going from bent to flat on the downstroke.

Originally Posted by neil A bent left wrist is not mandatory -to some it is good as it helps to prevent throwaway when going from bent to flat on the downstroke.

More like Bent to Arched.

Originally Posted by golfbulldog Matthew,

Can I just check that the end result of what you are saying is that on the downswing/swinging/sequenced release...

- the left wrist is bent in order for the sweetspot and pp3 to stay on plane. Is that correct?

- And then for the sequenced release to occur... the left wrist uncocks on plane...with a left wrist that is bent and gradually straightens....and then rolls...is that correct?

Thanks

i get the same conclusion from matts vids. We've been talking over the years so much about keeping the left wrist flat, im very surprised that now, bent would be 'a good thing', anywhere in the stroke except lagging the clubhead at takeaway. hhhmmm

Originally Posted by powerdraw i get the same conclusion from matts vids. We've been talking over the years so much about keeping the left wrist flat, im very surprised that now, bent would be 'a good thing', anywhere in the stroke except lagging the clubhead at takeaway. hhhmmm

I cannot believe what I'm reading. These videos are confusing Clubshaft Control with Clubface Control and Clubhead Control.

I don't mean to offend anybody, especially Matthew. However CF will align the Clubface for Swingers, no matter what Grip to Plane being used (Within reason of course) and no matter the Plane Angle degree. CF closes the Clubface in Sequenced Releases.

If you need to Compensate by Bending your Left Wrist simply to Keep the Clubshaft On-Plane and Sequence the Release, then something else is to blame; not the Flat Left Wrist.

Originally Posted by golfbulldog Matthew,

Can I just check that the end result of what you are saying is that on the downswing/swinging/sequenced release...

- the left wrist is bent in order for the sweetspot and pp3 to stay on plane. Is that correct?

- And then for the sequenced release to occur... the left wrist uncocks on plane...with a left wrist that is bent and gradually straightens....and then rolls...is that correct?

Thanks

Mathew, thanks for the direct video reply - I shall review the specific references you made in due course.

In your reply there are some bits that still appear heretical...namely the precedence you give to the left wristcock being on plane over and above the left wrist remaining "flat" throughout the downswing.

If that is what you are saying then please nod, please do not use too many long words...just nod...keep it simple please.

The reason I ask you to keep your reply simple is that I think that what you might not appreciate is that for most of us here the "Flat left wrist" is crutch that we hold onto dearly.... I think I speak for many who have started learning from TGM but have much remaining to learn...in that we feel that once you have got your left wrist flat at some stage in the backswing...you keep it in that position. My interpretation of your words is that that is not the case. That is why I /we need a simple reply to confirm this conclusion. I appreciate that the explaination may require more complex words but mere confirmation of this conclusion does not.

I think that a simple statement from you will help the discussion further.

The reason it is taking us a while to understand this is because it is certainly something that I have not seen stressed by other knowledgeable TGM people...now that might be my misunderstanding of their words...it might be their misunderstanding of Homer's words...or...some other reason...

I keep my mind open ...

This is great Mathew - Thanks, I'm sure it will enlighten my journey in the realm of TGM - I do wake up with the book in my face....!
Muchly appreciated