Ben Hogan's Secret

I just bought this '55 Sports Illustrated to share this article with my TGM buddies...enjoy

Couple of questions, would appreciate your thoughts.

Snuff box: Illustration No. 1. Appears that Hogan moved
the snuff box to the top of the shaft? What do you think?

Pronation: The left hand is cupped and the right hand on
top of the shaft. Illustration No. 2. The clubface does open.
Is this due to going from a fix to an extreem adjusted address
in the takeaway? But is this really pronation? In Hogans waggle
Hogan goes to a flat left wrist and bent right wrist but goes on
to say "For all general points and purposes, the backswing is
simply an extension of the way the golfer takes the club back
on the waggle." How can this be? The takeaway seems to be
quite different from the waggle. Yoda says that Hogan has
a single action wrist takeaway which seems to appear in the
pictures. I guess the question is, do you need a standard
wrist action to pronate?

The snuff box and pronation continue to be a puzzle to me,
but I will continue to work on it till I find an answere. Sure would
appreciate your insite.

Originally Posted by dkerby Couple of questions, would appreciate your thoughts.

Snuff box: Illustration No. 1. Appears that Hogan moved
the snuff box to the top of the shaft? What do you think?

Pronation: The left hand is cupped and the right hand on
top of the shaft. Illustration No. 2. The clubface does open.
Is this due to going from a fix to an extreem adjusted address
in the takeaway? But is this really pronation? In Hogans waggle
Hogan goes to a flat left wrist and bent right wrist but goes on
to say "For all general points and purposes, the backswing is
simply an extension of the way the golfer takes the club back
on the waggle." How can this be? The takeaway seems to be
quite different from the waggle. Yoda says that Hogan has
a single action wrist takeaway which seems to appear in the
pictures. I guess the question is, do you need a standard
wrist action to pronate?

The snuff box and pronation continue to be a puzzle to me,
but I will continue to work on it till I find an answere. Sure would
appreciate your insite.

I'd say he had more of a Lagging Clubhead Takeaway . . . It seems to me that his waggle is getting his hands more in a "delivery" condition than an Impact Condition. Plus it looks like he is prepping himself to get his right elbow "glued" to his rib cage.

Hi Buckett, sure enjoy your posts and knowledge. Not sure about
the lagging takeaway. In the 5 lessons, Hogan said "Actually, the hands
start the clubhead back a split second before the arms start back".
In an older book, The methods of the masters, Ken Bowden noted
"Hogans clubhead moves back momentarily before hands start back -
all "drag" eliminated." Makes one wonder?

I've seen Hogan make takeaways that are lagging clubhead and some that are not, presumably for no other reason than to confuse us.

Originally Posted by mrodock I've seen Hogan make takeaways that are lagging clubhead and some that are not, presumably for no other reason than to confuse us.

Witcha . . . I think he did whatever he wanted to.

But I think he had some "core" secrets . ..

Can we tell what kind of shots he was trying to hit with the LCT vs. normal?

Originally Posted by hg I just bought this '55 Sports Illustrated to share this article with my TGM buddies...enjoy

This is extremely cool of you, thanks hg!

Reflecting on Hogan's pronation. Seems that Hogan used a
very weak grip and then cupped the left hand, giving an open
clubface without turning the club to the right. Pictures show
the back of the left hand facing the plane Line during the
takeaway. May explain the appearance of dragging and pronation.

Really nice gift - thanks HG!

Originally Posted by hg I just bought this '55 Sports Illustrated to share this article with my TGM buddies...enjoy

Thank you so much for sharing, HG .
Very interesting article. U tube is good but I suppose that I'm not the only one to appreciate some old "stuff ".

Originally Posted by hg I just bought this '55 Sports Illustrated to share this article with my TGM buddies...enjoy

Thanks mate.

Thanks, nice to see the full article.

Basically his setup was all about the fade, and his hands tried as hard as he could to hook the heck out of it.

Hence the reason item #22 in the the checklist for all strokes is capitalized:

DELIVERY LINE ROLL PREP

J. Miller did the same thing, setup at the extreme (weaker grip than most) and just fire those hands through with FULL ROLL!

Originally Posted by EdZ Thanks, nice to see the full article.

Basically his setup was all about the fade, and his hands tried as hard as he could to hook the heck out of it.

Hence the reason item #22 in the the checklist for all strokes is capitalized:

DELIVERY LINE ROLL PREP

J. Miller did the same thing, setup at the extreme (weaker grip than most) and just fire those hands through with FULL ROLL!

Did Hogan full roll??? Or did he say he full rolled?

Bucket, can you post that pic I just sent you?

Originally Posted by mrodock Bucket, can you post that pic I just sent you?

You really want me to put THAT pic up???? If you say so . . . . .

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket You really want me to put THAT pic up???? If you say so . . . . .

NO NO NO!!!!!!!!! The Hogan one!

This is the one I meant Bucket.



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