Post impact alignments...

I love this photo...

and this swing...



so much good stuff....impact hand location, awesome footwork...brilliant!!
Even "shoot, hold, rest" look to the finish...

Tiger has played incredible golf the last 5 days... but there are no photos/footage of him that look this good...yet!!
Golfbuldog

I love Hogan's swing and his post-impact alignments.

However, I also love Tiger Woods' swing and I have seen many photos of him looking equally as good post-impact. Here is one.



Jeff.
Originally Posted by Jeff Golfbuldog

I love Hogan's swing and his post-impact alignments.

However, I also love Tiger Woods' swing and I have seen many photos of him looking equally as good post-impact. Here is one.



Jeff.
Tiger is not there yet...although his iron swing with his irons is much closer than some of the swipes he makes with his driver...although he drove well in the closing few holes I saw on Monday.

I think that to keep the right wrist bent this far past impact suggests some rignt triceps...my biomechanics knowledge (pretty limited )but that is the way I see it...

The sand, I suspect, is helping to exaggerate the appearance on this pic...but even then I do not think that many modern players would look like this even out of sand.

Short sand shots often some throwaway (very well timed) is used...this is what Mark Roe has been teaching Lee Westwood if I understood a recent article... and fairway bunker shots...Well, Rocco - for all his great play, did not look like this on the play-off hole.
Originally Posted by golfbulldog Well, Rocco - for all his great play, did not look like this on the play-off hole.
Rocco had a sidehill lie with the ball sitting down in the bunker. He hit down on it but got over the top and pulled it left. Certainly a bad shot since he had plenty of green to work with if he had kept it right of the green.
You guys have to remember that Ben Hogan's average driving distance was taken at 253 yards. With the technology these days 300+ yards are far more routine. It even means I could hit 3 wood past one of the greats . It doesn't take a mathematician to work out that the accuracy required for the increase on drive length is far far higher. Woods would hit the fairway alot more if he was only hitting 250 yards too.
Originally Posted by Mathew You guys have to remember that Ben Hogan's average driving distance was taken at 253 yards. With the technology these days 300+ yards are far more routine. It even means I could hit 3 wood past one of the greats . It doesn't take a mathematician to work out that the accuracy required for the increase on drive length is far far higher. Woods would hit the fairway alot more if he was only hitting 250 yards too.
I agree (and I am no Leibnitz!) BUT...if Hogan had the same technology he would be considerably longer and I dare say still quite accurate. I have watched Tiger on the range as well as on the course. On the range he is a freaking machine, his rhythm (TGM definition of course) is mesmerizing. He overaccelarates on the course especially with the driver...what a great pair of hands he has! I think this knee injury may convince him to keep his rpm a little more constant. When Tiger is in the fairway who can beat him? Range Tiger makes the best move I have ever seen (although I once watched Tom Purtzer hit is like a minor deity for two hours!) Course Tiger is less mechanic and more intuitive genius! I honestly believe that as Tiger "matures" his game will acquire more precision. He already has it mechanically, but he cannot resist slashing one out there 340!
I noticed that Tiger's right hand is a little more rolled on the grip to where # 3 is not aft. Am I seeing things? What does he have to do to get the pp behind the shaft? Is that why he practices that (what looks like to me) severe start-up swivel? Els also looks to have the same grip. Does this explain the high right forearm at address? The higher the right forearm at address the more severe the startup swivel? Seems simpler to start with it closer to the plane (sweetspot plane that is)

Over good buddies

PS That was one of the best majors I have ever watched. It comes close to the first I have ever watched, the '86 Masters!
The apearance of this pp3 on the top of the shaft is because of the 1/4 turn the right hand specifically pp3 makes to help suppor the loading at the top, it is not manditory to rotate it back to the aft side of the shaft, it is the equivilant of a weak single action grip i bealive comming through

Originally Posted by okie I noticed that Tiger's right hand is a little more rolled on the grip to where # 3 is not aft. Am I seeing things? What does he have to do to get the pp behind the shaft? Is that why he practices that (what looks like to me) severe start-up swivel? Els also looks to have the same grip. Does this explain the high right forearm at address? The higher the right forearm at address the more severe the startup swivel? Seems simpler to start with it closer to the plane (sweetspot plane that is)

Over good buddies

PS That was one of the best majors I have ever watched. It comes close to the first I have ever watched, the '86 Masters!
good youtube link that led me on to some great ones of McClean on Hogan.
Originally Posted by golfbulldog I love this photo...

and this swing...



so much good stuff....impact hand location, awesome footwork...brilliant!!
Even "shoot, hold, rest" look to the finish...

Tiger has played incredible golf the last 5 days... but there are no photos/footage of him that look this good...yet!!
Hmmm i guess Hogan played that bunker shot with his left hip and left arm/hand !!!