Wall Street Journal Sat March 28

Golf Journal by John Paul Newport THE MADNESS IN THE METHOD.
Page W4. 2nd paragraph: "but nobody would confuse Stack and
Tilt with the swing detailed in "The Golfing Machine," a thick 1969
instruction manual by Homer Kelley which also has many devotees
on the PGA Tour, including most avidly Steve Elkington." Lots more
to read.

Very good article well worth reading.

Originally Posted by dkerby Golf Journal by John Paul Newport THE MADNESS IN THE METHOD.
Page W4. 2nd paragraph: "but nobody would confuse Stack and
Tilt with the swing detailed in "The Golfing Machine," a thick 1969
instruction manual by Homer Kelley which also has many devotees
on the PGA Tour, including most avidly Steve Elkington." Lots more
to read.

Very good article well worth reading.

Here is the link. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123819549450061321.html

Purehitter, Thanks for the link. I did not know who to do that.

Donn

TGM is not a method, as Homer Kelley and Yoda would have it anyways.

Others may try to make it so, but that was never Mr Kelleys intention.

OB

Originally Posted by O.B.Left TGM is not a method, as Homer Kelley and Yoda would have it anyways.

Others may try to make it so, but that was never Mr Kelleys intention.

OB

Yep. The spirit of TGM is that there's no one way to swing a golf club and hit it effectively. I get the feeling some teacher, and from the sounds of it I can guess who, probably erroneously told him that TGM is one method of hitting along with some other erroneous stuff about TGM as well.

'For those who believe, no explanation is necessary. For those who don't believe, no explanation will do.' - an old saying




3JACK

Originally Posted by Richie3Jack Yep. The spirit of TGM is that there's no one way to swing a golf club and hit it effectively. I get the feeling some teacher, and from the sounds of it I can guess who, probably erroneously told him that TGM is one method of hitting along with some other erroneous stuff about TGM as well.

'For those who believe, no explanation is necessary. For those who don't believe, no explanation will do.' - an old saying




3JACK

John Paul Newport wrote about Ben Doyle as well. John Paul Newport is a fan of TGM and knows there is more than one way to skin a cat.

Originally Posted by purehitter John Paul Newport wrote about Ben Doyle as well. John Paul Newport is a fan of TGM and knows there is more than one way to skin a cat.

When I read this:

The Stack and Tilt swing may remind some of the Natural Golf swing popularized by Canadian Moe Norman, but nobody would confuse Stack and Tilt with the swing detailed in "The Golfing Machine," a thick 1969 instruction manual by Homer Kelley which also has many devotees on the PGA Tour, including most avidly Steve Elkington.

One thing all these swing styles have in common is that they are marketed -- by some, at least -- as the one true way.

Perhaps Newport has either changed his mind about TGM or is just trying to 'make the column' for his case about the Stack N Tilt. But it's not a swing, it's 'swings' detailed in TGM. And really TGM is about all of these true ways or as Mr. Kelley stated in 1-H

'There is no effort to classify any Stroke Pattern as the best or the worst, except on the basis of Mechanical Advantage. But there is undoubtedly a best 'central' Stroke Pattern for each individual.

I don't want to come off as upset by the article, but I do think it's a rather gross misrepresentation of TGM. And for better or for worse I hold the media to a higher standard when it comes to accuracy, regardless of what the subject matter is.




3JACK

Originally Posted by dkerby Golf Journal by John Paul Newport THE MADNESS IN THE METHOD.
Page W4. 2nd paragraph: "but nobody would confuse Stack and
Tilt with the swing detailed in "The Golfing Machine," a thick 1969
instruction manual by Homer Kelley which also has many devotees
on the PGA Tour, including most avidly Steve Elkington." Lots more
to read.

Very good article well worth reading.

Interesting that he chose Elk as his tour TGM devotee. Elkington was one of the first, if not the first tour player to try stack and tilt.

Originally Posted by efnef Interesting that he chose Elk as his tour TGM devotee. Elkington was one of the first, if not the first tour player to try stack and tilt.

I don't know how accurate your information is about the Stack & Tilt part but I know he is working with Ben as well as with my trainers now. Steve is TGM all the way.

John W Rohan-Weaver CMAI, GSEM

"Feel no concern for the Perfect Stroke there are trillions of precision patterns.....".
Mr. Kelley

Amen, brother! The longer we labor on The Way the less time we have for My Way. One of my toughest challenges has been not sorting out component variations etc, but rather the temptation to abandon work on developing more precision within a specific component when I am not immediately seeing positive results i.e. how am I hitting it. It is easy to abandon ship when it seems as though your ball striking is regressing. The good news is if you stay the course...the dawn will break! I believe the knowledge that I am in the process of developing and refining my own stroke pattern has given me the staying power to hang in there until it takes root. A quick fix approach mentality will set you up for TGM frustration. Although learning to trace a straight line helped INSTANTLY! I worked with the flashlights for a couple minutes...everyday...for 6 months. I have never consciously traced a straight line when hitting an actual ball...although it is traced more times than not. It taught me that the hands and the body go their seperate ways (lanes) and the idea of hands controlled pivot was partially revealed to me. That alone can change your game. All of this to say that if a cookie cutter instructor helps a player it was more accidental, than by design. They only build one kind of machine.