TGM Editions thru the years

johnnyg
Hi Yoda

I have recently been given a 3rd edition TGM book and I am finding it facinating the changes from the 3rd to the 6th and 7th editions. I might be wrong but the in the 3rd Homer seems to give more guidance to helping the pupil find their stroke pattern. Also in the 3rd there are 5 imperatives (lag pressure, flat left wrist, balance, rhythm and steady head). Can you throw any of your insight into the changes in the editions and your feeling for why Homer did them.

Thanks
O.B.Left
Great question Jg, looking forward to reading the replies.

Must admit Im a little jealous, cant find a 3rd for myself.

Ob
Daryl
Originally Posted by johnnyg Hi Yoda

I have recently been given a 3rd edition TGM book and I am finding it facinating the changes from the 3rd to the 6th and 7th editions. I might be wrong but the in the 3rd Homer seems to give more guidance to helping the pupil find their stroke pattern. Also in the 3rd there are 5 imperatives (lag pressure, flat left wrist, balance, rhythm and steady head). Can you throw any of your insight into the changes in the editions and your feeling for why Homer did them.

Thanks
Hmm...Uh, oh, hmm....well... ya know, John, your book is out of date. Uh, Homer updated that stuff years ago, maybe you would like to trade that old, worn thing for a new book. A shiney new, unfaded, updated new book?
precision system
Originally Posted by Daryl Hmm...Uh, oh, hmm....well... ya know, John, your book is out of date. Uh, Homer updated that stuff years ago, maybe you would like to trade that old, worn thing for a new book. A shiney new, unfaded, updated new book?
Why are you only interested in the final destination? Are you not interested in the journey - the incubation the discoveries the occasional wrong turn that gave greater enlightenment?

If you believe the seventh is "it" then let that be your judgement. I too am interested in what Yoda would say about the evolvement of TGM through trial and research.
drewitgolf
Originally Posted by precision system Why are you only interested in the final destination? Are you not interested in the journey - the incubation the discoveries the occasional wrong turn that gave greater enlightenment?
Actually that would be Daryl planting the seeds of a possible transaction to help lighten John's golf library by one third edition.
O.B.Left
Originally Posted by precision system Why are you only interested in the final destination? Are you not interested in the journey - the incubation the discoveries the occasional wrong turn that gave greater enlightenment?

If you believe the seventh is "it" then let that be your judgement. I too am interested in what Yoda would say about the evolvement of TGM through trial and research.

On the contrary Precision S. Our friend, Daryl was merely trying to fleece Jg out of his 3rd in a humorous manner.

Anyone wishing to part with a 3rd please Pm me, not Daryl. He already has versions 1,2,5,6,7........I sadly only have 6.

Daryl is also offering a "signed" seventh edition for a third. The signature looks a little like Daryl's but it is signed. I didnt know Homer had two "m's" either.
Daryl
Originally Posted by precision system Why are you only interested in the final destination? Are you not interested in the journey - the incubation the discoveries the occasional wrong turn that gave greater enlightenment?

If you believe the seventh is "it" then let that be your judgement. I too am interested in what Yoda would say about the evolvement of TGM through trial and research.
Dear precision system,

I own an autographed copy of the 1st Edition. A Bobby Clampett autographed 2nd Edition. A 5th Edition, 8-6th Editions and 2-7th Editions. I need the 3rd and 4th.

John, if you're reading this and don't offer to sell to me, you're contributing to the breakup of a great collection.
O.B.Left
Originally Posted by johnnyg Hi Yoda

I have recently been given a 3rd edition TGM book and I am finding it facinating the changes from the 3rd to the 6th and 7th editions. I might be wrong but the in the 3rd Homer seems to give more guidance to helping the pupil find their stroke pattern. Also in the 3rd there are 5 imperatives (lag pressure, flat left wrist, balance, rhythm and steady head). Can you throw any of your insight into the changes in the editions and your feeling for why Homer did them.

Thanks


This is a big question. But a good one that perhaps only a very few people can offer an opinion on. Is this too big to answer? Should it be a separate forum?

I wish TGM would re issue the whole collection.
precision system
Originally Posted by O.B.Left This is a big question. But a good one that perhaps only a very few people can offer an opinion on. Is this too big to answer? Should it be a separate forum?

I wish TGM would re issue the whole collection.
Hear, hear what a great idea.
Yoda
Originally Posted by johnnyg
Hi Yoda

I have recently been given a 3rd edition TGM book and I am finding it facinating the changes from the 3rd to the 6th and 7th editions. I might be wrong but the in the 3rd Homer seems to give more guidance to helping the pupil find their stroke pattern. Also in the 3rd there are 5 imperatives (lag pressure, flat left wrist, balance, rhythm and steady head). Can you throw any of your insight into the changes in the editions and your feeling for why Homer did them.
I have written extensively in these pages about the various editions, including the Five Imperatives you referenced. Actually, considering the three Hand Imperatives of 6-H-0, there were eight!

Also, I have referenced priceless text that later hit the cutting room floor, the result of Homer's relentless sacrifice at the altar of brevity.

Finally, I have discussed several important changes in the posthumous seventh edition that do not square with the six prior editions produced by Homer himself. Nor do they square with other sections in the same edition. Pity.

The answer to your question above is that Homer came to feel that the first edition -- and no doubt the subsequent editions as well -- were "incomplete". Some of that self-criticism was deserved. But much of the subsequent information was published because he realized, after his Master Classes with a handful of seekers around the country, that we mortals just didn't understand where he was coming from. In his genius, he had assumed too much.

It was that gap that editions four, five and six attempted to bridge.

O.B.Left
Anyone have any key words for a Search on the "priceless text" that didnt make the edit? Id dont recall reading this and cant find it.

Thanks
Ob
Yoda
Originally Posted by O.B.Left Anyone have any key words for a Search on the "priceless text" that didnt make the edit? Id dont recall reading this and cant find it.
How about this from Editions #1 and #2 regarding the Clubhead Lag (6-C-2-0):
"It is quite simple in itself, but its applications and activities are a little complex and quite elusive. But it is absolutely indispensable to consistency, accuracy and, most of all, Power. It has no substitute or compensation. It is the perfection of the Mechanics of Golf -- which are 'peanuts' without Clubhead Lag, and if mastered, assures a respectable performance on the basis of Feel alone, with little dependence on Mechanics at all."
O.B.Left
Thanks Yoda thats great.