Immelman flipping?

ColtsFan
http://www.golf.com/golf/gallery/art...271-10,00.html

Ive seen some pro's that have a post impact look like this, Sergio included. What is the deal with the flip here?

It appers more pronounced than even a "soft left wrist" its downright bent
bambam
Based on what I've read, Immelman is actually trying to do that horizontal move. He must be doing it post impact or he'd be hitting it all over the map. That'd be hard to time IMO.

Based on slides 13 and 14 it appears to be a misguided attempt to finish swivel. The finish swivel can be done just as easily without bending your left wrist through impact.
ColtsFan
yea,

something aint right there. He needs to watch Jeff Hull's video's on LBG TV on how to swivel back up plane.

That picture looks like a well dressed guy at the range throwing his club head around, kind of like me before I got
"Alignment Golf"
Daryl
Nice Flip. That article will keep the Golf Digest Instructors busy until the next fad.
Yoda
Originally Posted by ColtsFan
http://www.golf.com/golf/gallery/art...271-10,00.html

Ive seen some pro's that have a post impact look like this, Sergio included. What is the deal with the flip here?

It appers more pronounced than even a "soft left wrist" its downright bent
A while back, I worked with a PGA TOUR player who had been following the advice of two very famous instructors. Collectively, and over a period of THREE years, they had been instrumental in his acquiring the "Immelman Golf Magazine" alignment. I won't disclose the name of the player here -- he was to win a few months later -- but at this stage of his frustration, "MC" was his middle name.

But, once he understood the true nature of (1) "wide" during the Stroke (vs. World Famous Instructor #1's version) and (2) the "release" (vs. World Famous Instructor #2's version), he began pounding the ball as he had not done in years. An hour into our session and with both of us in awe of these outstanding results, he dropped his club to the ground, put his hands on his hips and stood tall. With fire in his eyes, he stared at the horizon and said:

"I want to kill somebody."

There was no smile on his face.

"I've wasted three years of my life."



Better late than never.

12 piece bucket
Originally Posted by Yoda
A while back, I worked with a PGA TOUR player who had been following the advice of two very famous instructors. Collectively, and over a period of THREE years, they had been instrumental in his acquiring the "Immelman Golf Magazine" alignment. I won't disclose the name of the player here -- he was to win a few months later -- but at this stage of his frustration, "MC" was his middle name.

But, once he understood the true nature of (1) "wide" during the Stroke (vs. World Famous Instructor #1's version) and (2) the "release" (vs. World Famous Instructor #2's version), he began pounding the ball as he had not done in years. An hour into our session and with both of us in awe of these outstanding results, he dropped his club to the ground, put his hands on his hips and stood tall. With fire in his eyes, he stared at the horizon and said:

"I want to kill somebody."

There was no smile on his face.

"I've wasted three years of my life."



Better late than never.

It truly is AMAZING at what passes as good instruction . . . even at the highest levels a bad concept can wreck everything.
Richie3Jack
Originally Posted by Yoda With fire in his eyes, he stared at the horizon and said:

"I want to kill somebody."

There was no smile on his face.

"I've wasted three years of my life."



Better late than never.



Gotta say, I've felt like that for the past 15 years. From '93-'00 and then for quitting the game for the past 8 years due to frustration and being burned out.

That statement by the Tour pro is completely and utterly dead on.




3JACK
Seanmx
Originally Posted by Yoda
But, once he understood the true nature of (1) "wide" during the Stroke (vs. World Famous Instructor #1's version) and (2) the "release" (vs. World Famous Instructor #2's version), he began pounding the ball as he had not done in years. An hour into our session and with both of us in awe of these outstanding results, he dropped his club to the ground, put his hands on his hips and stood tall. With fire in his eyes, he stared at the horizon and said:

"I want to kill somebody."

There was no smile on his face.

"I've wasted three years of my life."



Better late than never.

Great story - Thanks
ColtsFan
Originally Posted by YODA But, once he understood the true nature of (1) "wide" during the Stroke (vs. World Famous Instructor #1's version) and (2) the "release" (vs. World Famous Instructor #2's version), he began pounding the ball as he had not done in years.


extensor action and horizontal hinging back up the plane has made a world of difference in my game, I cant imagine what a revelation it would have been for tour guy w/ talent.

Great story Yoda...
JerryG
A friend was working on the range near one of this area's deans of golf instruction. He is considered one of the go-to guys if one is in need of quality instruction.
Instructor is teaching a 14 year old girl and states something along the lines of
"the rotation of the body causes the ball to draw or hook" to this girl, her father and a younger sibling.
I hope she can find a TGM instructor soon.
jerry1967
extensor action and horizontal hinging I need a explanation of these terms.

I read and read and still do not understand!
ColtsFan
Originally Posted by jerry1967 extensor action and horizontal hinging I need a explanation of these terms.

I read and read and still do not understand!
Jerry

not trying to pimp the Aligment Golf DVD too much, but it really does clears up all the stuff from the book or posts that still dont make sense. Also Yoda's lesson w/ Colin in the video section is great too.

You can see all the hinge actions and extensor action performed to help you see why they call it horizontal vs vetical vs angled.
Richie3Jack
Originally Posted by JerryG A friend was working on the range near one of this area's deans of golf instruction. He is considered one of the go-to guys if one is in need of quality instruction.
Instructor is teaching a 14 year old girl and states something along the lines of
"the rotation of the body causes the ball to draw or hook" to this girl, her father and a younger sibling.
I hope she can find a TGM instructor soon.

I had the same experience a couple of months ago. I was playing a course in south Atlanta and this older gentleman, probably in his 40's and a pretty good player was teaching this female HS golfer on almost every shot and just screwing her up even more. But the last few holes, she was managing to shank her driver. After awhile I just wanted to yell 'SHUT UP AND GO TO THE SWAMP. I WILL PERSONALLY DRIVE YOU THERE!'




3JACK
bambam
Originally Posted by jerry1967 extensor action and horizontal hinging I need a explanation of these terms.

I read and read and still do not understand!
Here are a couple links for each. Don't forget the search feature available in the forum; tons of posts on the two subjects. These are straight from Yoda.

Extensor Action:
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=4567&
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=2689&

Hinge Action:
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...on-part-1.html
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...on-part-2.html