Finish Swivel drills?

I am having a little trouble with the finish swivel I know there is a good piece by Yoda on Youtube.

Along with that does anyone have any drills they do to work on the finish swivel?

Thanks!

Hey Broth

With some dowels describing the Plane Line, I grip way down on the grip and in slow motion training make sure that the butt end (which I can now see since so much of it is exposed) points at the dowels or an imaginary extension of it during the Release Swivel. So the deal is you want to roll the Flat left wrist back onto the Inclined Plane in an Aligned to the Plane Line manner. You learn it mechanically and turn it into a feel that you can play with.

[quote=O.B.Left;70150]Hey Broth

back onto the Inclined Plane in an Aligned to the Plane Line manner. QUOTE]

Ok what does this mean?

When I use only my lead hand and arm for finish swivel training, it is easy to sense the overtaking process...good speed, wind breaking sound...easy....but with both hands on, everything feel different! Why?

I figured out why....hopefully...but want to see more opinions.

Squeeze the last 2/3 fingers of your left hand and roll them forward, as if you had your hand on a motorcycle grip, as you start your downswing.

This will give you a bit of the feel, but be careful not to swivel as your hinge action, you want that "back of the left hand faces the ground" feeling AFTER impact.

Also, keep in mind that the swinger's release is a sequenced one, the uncocking, then the roll.

The move above should start you getting the post impact feels. It will tend to get you in an arched position, which is certainly better than a bent one.

I believe Hogan made that move, based on my studies. And Jim McLean reports in his book The Slot Swing, that Mickey Wright used it as well. (as previously discussed in the book Hogan's Magical Device)

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left Hey Broth

back onto the Inclined Plane in an Aligned to the Plane Line manner. QUOTE]

Ok what does this mean?

Sorry for any confusion my wife was yelling at me to get off the computer and decorate the tree or something.

The back of the left hand Swivels back on the Inclined Plane post Follow Through and you check the alignment by confirming the butt end of the club is pointing at the Plane Line. You can do the same thing on the backswing and In Release too.

It a drill done in slow motion without hitting a ball that gives you a feel for the correct roll. On the course, ball flight can be your guide, Overswivel in Finish normally accompanied by a draw or hook , underswivel a fade or slice. Over and under swivel both being off plane procedures in that the butt end points above or under the plane line during the Finish. Learn mechanically, play by feel. You need a way to check your alignments.

A flash light upside down in your left hand is another method for checking plane compliance.

Originally Posted by KOC When I use only my lead hand and arm for finish swivel training, it is easy to sense the overtaking process...good speed, wind breaking sound...easy....but with both hands on, everything feel different! Why?

I figured out why....hopefully...but want to see more opinions.

Hey KOC

How are you? Interesting question.

All the best to you and your family for 2010.

Ob

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Originally Posted by jerry1967
Sorry for any confusion my wife was yelling at me to get off the computer and decorate the tree or something.

O.B You crack me up

Originally Posted by EdZ
Also, keep in mind that the swinger's release is a sequenced one, the uncocking, then the roll.

Hi Edz
You hit the nail on the head with this one, This was for me a major change in my swivel action during release. Understand the difference between a swinger and Hitter swivel action completely changed my own game.
I remember on You tube somewhere there is a great drill were you use a Tee pushed thru the Gloves velcro strap and from low point to follow thru you would point the tee towards the ground in a rolling action.
I will find it and post it for you Broth.
Regards
Addam