TGM 8th Edition

To the Group: If you were in charge of writing the 8th edition, what changes would you make if any from your favorite edition (and what edition is your favorite)?

Originally Posted by John Graham To the Group: If you were in charge of writing the 8th edition, what changes would you make if any from your favorite edition (and what edition is your favorite)?

I enjoy the 6th edition, but YODA has helped us make changes to the 7th...

Great question John, I don't feel I have a deep enough understanding to talk about changes for #8, but if Mr. Kelley were still alive, there is no telling where it would be... Same foundation I would imagine...

Kevin

Originally Posted by KevCarter I enjoy the 6th edition, but YODA has helped us make changes to the 7th...

Great question John, I don't feel I have a deep enough understanding to talk about changes for #8, but if Mr. Kelley were still alive, there is no telling where it would be... Same foundation I would imagine...

Kevin

Kevin,

Thanks. You were mentioning that to me the other day when I noticed different wording in my #7 as your #6.

I also know form talking with other authors, that it is very common for the editor to change things without consent of the writer or use words that could be used to convey an opinion not expressed by the author.

I think that scenario would help explain why there are extra editions of any encyclopedia and why they are constantly upgraded.

I'm in the same boat but one that is sinking much much faster. Hoping I can find some chapters I can skip over. =) However, I'm afraid there won't be any.

Originally Posted by John Graham Kevin,

Thanks. You were mentioning that to me the other day when I noticed different wording in my #7 as your #6.

I also know form talking with other authors, that it is very common for the editor to change things without consent of the writer or use words that could be used to convey an opinion not expressed by the author.

I think that scenario would help explain why there are extra editions of any encyclopedia and why they are constantly upgraded.

I'm in the same boat but one that is sinking much much faster. Hoping I can find some chapters I can skip over. =) However, I'm afraid there won't be any.

I think you would need to dig deeper into why the 7th edition was created. I think there might be many people say the 8th edition should just be a reprinting of the 6th edition, or even an earlier edition.

John,
I would suggest you spend at least one day with Yoda. Included in the instruction is an explanation and some corrections/explanations of some of the befuddlements found in the book.
I have the 7th edition of the book. I think I would like to have an earlier edition at some point, but I am very interested to see what Daryl and Patrick (Innercityteacher)will come up with.
I also wonder just a little if there is an e-book version yet. That might tip me over the cliff to a Kindle or Nook.

What's wrong with the 7th edition?

Originally Posted by John Graham To the Group: If you were in charge of writing the 8th edition, what changes would you make if any from your favorite edition (and what edition is your favorite)?

More illustrations.

7th Edition

An edition someone could pick up - read AND understand it.

Originally Posted by Mike O An edition someone could pick up - read AND understand it.

I am really surprised a laymans version of the book has not been authored. This site has done it for me but not everyone knows to search the net for the answers.

A lot can be said in defense of simplifying the material in TGM. I have struggled many years while being confounded by much of the information. I still find myself struggling over many things.

But I'm also surprised at how simple things become when explained and demonstrated by a very knowledgeable instructor. I'm not sure that the written word can express as much as demonstration. But demonstration alone doesn't give you the "Why" or place emphasis where sometimes it needs to be in order for one to "put" things in perspective. So explanation and background information will be helpful.

I think that "Video Presentations" are getting better and better and I look forward to learning from "Alignment Golf II". I'm patient and I know how precise Yoda wants to be. I'm sure that enthusiasts and Instructors alike will appreciate the valuable contribution this DVD is going to make.

It may not be long before Golf Magazines begin including video presentations in their packaging or offering expanded video presentations for their On-Line publications for participating instructors. Certainly, golf stroke theorists and enthusiasts both would enjoy such an opportunity.

Originally Posted by Daryl A lot can be said in defense of simplifying the material in TGM. I have struggled many years while being confounded by much of the information. I still find myself struggling over many things.

Your posts, drawings, and work here have been a HUGE help in that area as well Daryl. We don't say THANK YOU enough!

Kevin

I would love to see an edition made for epublishing, the iPad, the Kindle, etc. This way I could bookmark, highlight, make notes and could study, study, study while I look, look, look (what does that really mean?)

With an iPad edition, there could be embedded videos, audios, diagrams, color photos, hypertext links, etc etc. It's so very user friendly. Lately I'm just saying goodbye to all my older forms of media.

Great question...interesting...the work of Homer Kelly is a really incredible piece of work that took in reality a lifetime...if not...at the very least....it was a lifelong journey once it started. It is well documented that he himself continued to update and improve on his work...and from what I gather from people that actually spent time with him...they have confirmed that. He put the geometry and physics of the swing in a format that is quite astounding during his time....every time I look back into the book...I see something new and in a different light. The mystery continues to fade away as I read and understand more. I enjoy using the book as a source of information along with other books written before TGM and shortly after. It is a book that has definitely assisted every accomplished teacher walking on this planet with his or her core knowledge of the golf swing. Either directly or indirectly. Armed with this core information and the desire to learn, teach or play...you will be better equiped for the journey....but remember....this does not guarantee that you will ever become a good player or student or teacher. Communication is the key and how you communicate the core knowledge to yourself (implement) or as a teacher to your student is the the "Secret" if there is one.

To guess what changes should be made for an 8th Edition would purely be a guess and really has no bearing on anything with respect to the information that Homer Kelly has given us. If he were alive today it would be interesting to see what progress he could have made...we..unfortunately don't have that luxury. Great conversation though.

I think that "YODA" could be the best connection to the past... walking today...that could best sift through how Homer Kelly would have developed the later editions 8th....9th....10th.....and on.

I would highly recommend a visit with Lynn to anyone that wants to get "the rest of the story".

It's a lifelong journey!

Sorry I got off course a bit......

Rick Murphy, PGA Professional

Man, what a great post.

Originally Posted by Yoda Later, in January 1982, . . .

With him for a week.

I have asked you this before, (and I suppose that your certified instruction program is the answer but..) when are you putting up a school like the one you did go through?

Sitting down and turning page by page...