Shoulder Turn for Hitters

Okay, since we hitters only go to "top" with hands right shoulder height is our shoulder turn "full?"

In other words, is our shoulder turn 90* with our left shoulder under the chin or does it stop short of that?

I think so. It's just that your arms won't 'lift' nearly as much as they would with a swinging procedure.




3JACK

Originally Posted by Richie3Jack I think so. It's just that your arms won't 'lift' nearly as much as they would with a swinging procedure.

When I get the left shoulder under my chin, the results seem to be better, that's for sure!

Might be due to having the shoulder plane steeper. So you may *feel* like you have the shoulder under the chin and turning more, but the reality is that your shoulder plane was probably too flat on the backswing before and now it's steeper which helps put you into other better mechanics.

Learn feel from mechanics, my friend.




3JACK

Originally Posted by Richie3Jack Might be due to having the shoulder plane steeper. So you may *feel* like you have the shoulder under the chin and turning more, but the reality is that your shoulder plane was probably too flat on the backswing before and now it's steeper which helps put you into other better mechanics.

Learn feel from mechanics, my friend.




3JACK

Originally Posted by Richie3Jack Might be due to having the shoulder plane steeper. So you may *feel* like you have the shoulder under the chin and turning more, but the reality is that your shoulder plane was probably too flat on the backswing before and now it's steeper which helps put you into other better mechanics.

Learn feel from mechanics, my friend.
3JACK

Here in lies the problem of not being able to see Yoda or having a qualified machinist around...I have to look in the mirror, etc. On the course, it gets really hard to not go by feel!

Well, that's why you should try and purchase a camera. That way you can see your swing in reality, check out the mechanics, re-work some things if needed, then once the mechanics start to take place...'feel your way around' as to what it feels like when you do it right.





3JACK

I was playing in a tourney last week when it "happened",I lost my swing completly,had my lie angles redone and clubs regripped the day before. The situation called for a turnaround somewhere,and I was lucky ,simply turned back into a hitter for remaining 14 holes,got a "A" H/cap win at least,my point is....how good is it to be able to have reliable alternate pattern to fall back on............staying with it for the near future,my cocern at this point is that while my irons deserted me my driver was still solid in swing pattern,is it OK to play with both,I might add I did stay with swing on small chips

Originally Posted by brownman I was playing in a tourney last week when it "happened",I lost my swing completly,had my lie angles redone and clubs regripped the day before. The situation called for a turnaround somewhere,and I was lucky ,simply turned back into a hitter for remaining 14 holes,got a "A" H/cap win at least,my point is....how good is it to be able to have reliable alternate pattern to fall back on............staying with it for the near future,my cocern at this point is that while my irons deserted me my driver was still solid in swing pattern,is it OK to play with both,I might add I did stay with swing on small chips

Do you use senior shafts on anything?


ICT

It is definitely ok to use both however u need to understand their differences, account for them and make sure one does not influence the other which can be difficult when switchig back and forth this is why homer preferred that all your patterns be the same from putt to drive well at least the same loading action. It's easy to confuse the machine and switchig between loading can be tricky