It would be interesting to see what the general consensus is.
If you are not satisfied with the four standard answers or want to express additional comments, please post them below.
It would be valuable to review the wealth of material readily available on this site prior to drawing your conclusions. I said this is a non-issue because the debate has been brought up before, and here we go again. I'm glad that Brian is making this subject one of his "pillars"
for teaching, and hopefully it is helping golfers. Homer knew the strengths and weakness of each option and so does Lynn. I'm not going to rehash so here you go.
For old times sake -
LynnBlakeGolf Forums > The Lesson Tee > The Golfing Machine - Advanced > Base of the Neck vs. Through the Head "centers"
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=2008
LynnBlakeGolf Forums > The Lesson Tee > The Golfing Machine - Advanced > Homer's two gifts... and two pivot centers
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=2025
Another option is doing a search on "tripod".
Bagger
Good job Bagger. I like that. Some good adminin'.
Cause if you don't know the issues.....and vote anyway.....it's just a blind vote.
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I think the poll is very valid.
My current perception is that I cannot activate PP4 enough if I do not move my head sideways, but I want avoid moving the base of my neck - or rather the tab on inside back of the collar of my shirt.
And I love feeling a ton of PP4 pressure.
Is base of neck in the front(bowtie) and top of spine(shirt label) in the back....???????
The Head is the forehead, chin, the eyes?
What is Chossing through the Head ?...LOL
Just Kidding...
What does through the Head mean?
Is that different than the head?
Stick a ball on the end of a pencil. Tilt the pencil. Rotate the pencil between the fingers. This is NOT how the spine works in a golf swing. Although it seems to be.
Vertebrae allows the spine to re-position itself during the pivot. For some, less or more than others. This allows for a tripod.
A head that rotates to the right and left is no big deal- it is still centered on the tripod.
My camera tripod head moves 3 ways but it always centered over the legs.
This argument has wedged distance between many. The name calling is childish. Loyalties tested- over what? An inch or so of a centered head rotating to the side? Do you sway? Of course not. You stay centered over your legs. This ain't Ballard.
The picture of Sergio illustrates the pivot center, however my question pertains to the tailbone part of the spine. What movement, if any, of the tailbone takes place in the backswing? Does preturning the right hip involve making sure the tailbone is set? Appropriate chapter where this is discussed?
My 2 cents.
I voted for (d) and here's why:
The spine is one continuous member; it is not seperated at the base of the neck. The head and base of the neck are one in the same IMO. The head contains all the sensing and monitoring abilities.
Head Tripod Centre most resembles machine construction pricinples. This is what TGM is about IMO. It dosen't consider physical limitations-nor should it. I agree that its OPTIMAL (essential) not MANDATORY (imperative).
As we've seen, one can illustrate almost every conceivable idea (right or wrong) about the golf swing using a professional's photos/sequences. This IMO only demonstrates that certain individuals possess talent most of us will never realize. Ever watched Jeff Healy play guitar?
CW
Originally Posted by Millrat
The head contains all the sensing and monitoring abilities.
Head Tripod Centre most resembles machine construction principles. This is what TGM is about IMO. It dosen't consider physical limitations-nor should it. I agree that its OPTIMAL (essential) not MANDATORY (imperative).
As we've seen, one can illustrate almost every conceivable idea (right or wrong) about the golf swing using a professional's photos/sequences. This IMO only demonstrates that certain individuals possess talent most of us will never realize. Ever watched Jeff Healy play guitar?
Great post,
Millrat. Probably the most sense anybody's made of this so far.
Originally Posted by rogerdodger
The picture of Sergio illustrates the pivot center, however my question pertains to the tailbone part of the spine. What movement, if any, of the tailbone takes place in the backswing? Does preturning the right hip involve making sure the tailbone is set? Appropriate chapter where this is discussed?
You may find something for consideration in 7-16.
DRW
Originally Posted by 6bmike
Stick a ball on the end of a pencil. Tilt the pencil. Rotate the pencil between the fingers. This is NOT how the spine works in a golf swing. Although it seems to be.
Vertebrae allows the spine to re-position itself during the pivot. For some, less or more than others. This allows for a tripod.
A head that rotates to the right and left is no big deal- it is still centered on the tripod.
My camera tripod head moves 3 ways but it always centered over the legs.
This argument has wedged distance between many. The name calling is childish. Loyalties tested- over what? An inch or so of a centered head rotating to the side? Do you sway? Of course not. You stay centered over your legs. This ain't Ballard.
I got this idea from "another instructor" on "another site"....
His view is that it basically works like this when you turn around your spine:
The stick is in the BACK of the rocket....(just like the spine runs up the back of your torso and head)....
Now spin the rocket mentally....the stick is in the back....
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The argument is that it basically gives you "something" to turn around (your SPINE) rather than nothing and also that it makes it easier to tilt in the downswing.
